[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by drducat

Here is one from the NIH.

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease - PubMed

"Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent."

Did you read the full article?? Did you notice this line: "Current data on COVID-19 vaccines is limited, but does not so far reveal evidence of ADE of disease."

This article doesn't aim to prove that ADE is an issue with the COVID vaccines, it only wants to show that there is little notice in the consent forms about the possibility of ADE.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Did you read the full article?? Did you notice this line: "Current data on COVID-19 vaccines is limited, but does not so far reveal evidence of ADE of disease."

This article doesn't aim to prove that ADE is an issue with the COVID vaccines, it only wants to show that there is little notice in the consent forms about the possibility of ADE.

Yes.....because previous animal trials ADE was prevalent and resulted in death to many. It is a matter of concern and when they get around to full disclosure...ADE will be on the label as a side affect.

[Gizemo33]

Biedawg, Saw your quote “no more shots for us”, My guess is you’re not afraid of having a ventilator shoved down your throat and the possibility of a long brutal death. Reconsidering would be a smarter move. Getting the shot would be the smartest move. God bless

Originally Posted by birdawg

I’m done tired of the lies. No more shots for us

[Gizemo33]

Decadeofds, don’t quite understand your comment. The original shots received emergency approval and have saved hundreds of thousands of wives. Why would you be hesitant of the booster shot until the original shots came off of the temporary approval status???????

You are either an anti-VAXer or a gambler. If the CDC comes out and says booster shots or required, get the Darn shot.

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave

I am not a doctor, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn express last night ---
It would seem to me that full FDA approval of the original vaccine should be done first, before a booster of this emergency vaccine is ready.

[Bay Kid]

Profitable drugs for a man made virus. Who do you trust?

Originally Posted by John41

Moderna is finalizing data on several booster shots for Covid 19 and urges elderly populations such as The Villages to get a booster shot to avoid respiratory complications. The efficacy of the first two shots diminishes after 6 to 9 months. We got our second shot in March 2021 so about November we will sign up for the booster. Moderna is a vaccine company that developed a vaccine against Covid 19 last year under Operation Warp Speed.

Are you also aware that Moderna has NEVER made a vaccine before? This is their first. Proceed with caution, and do your research

Originally Posted by MDLNB

I have yet to see a convincing argument FOR getting a booster for a vaccine that they have no confidence in. Sounds like a "shot" in the dark hoping to hit their target. Prob wait and see how it goes. If I get sick, then it is on me and you all can say "told ya." If not I'll prob be better off than those vaccinated IMO.

Agree, listening to Fraudci is like listening to the Boy Who Cried Wolf. CDC & Fraudci have lost ALL credibility.

[Looking for next wife]

So the world was going to hell and millions and millions of people were dying and then the vaccines were developed as fast as possible in the middle of a pandemic, not to avert one in the future; and then the world started to get better and better and all the numbers were dropping all over the place and millions upon millions of lives were being saved and then this variant popped up as can and does happen routinely and you can't find the proof that it is a good thing to adjust the vaccine a little and take another shot because you can't seem to find the logic in it and everyone else be dammed if someone tells you otherwise it's all about your rights. You can't be serious. This has to be about something else. It is only the antivaxxers that are dying now. Why the hell not get it. Do you use band aids to stop a tiny infection at the beginning so your leg won't have to be amputated. It's coming for you. Don't you see the videos of the dying and just died family members lamenting that were wrong to not get it. This band aid helps everyone, not just you. You can't wait for the polio shot after you are already limping. Why aren't you embarrassed by your own logic. I think you can still read that deaths to Blacks and Latino from covid are twice that of white and Asians. I heard a guy say that the presidential race was close enough that if a bunch of blacks (democrats in his eyes) die before the next election; the republicans (white in his eyes) would win again because the population of them would be depleted just enough. He also said that Blacks and Latinos have more and more babies than whites that grow up to vote and whites will not ever again be in charge of their country. Is this what this actually is? Racial genocide in a thin disguise? That would be a form of logic at least from an idiot crazy man. What about you? What is it really that is driving you guys?

[matandch]

I’ll take my chances and get the booster.

Originally Posted by John41

The FDA has collected the six months of data needed for full approval. Nothing adverse in the data but seems to be some delay is getting the recommendation finalized.

6 months of data is useless, let's see what long term unknown side affects bring? Hard to believe people are so trusting of anything from Government. They'll fast forward the approval on false info just to convince the unvaccinated to take it.

[Looking for next wife]

To all the anti axxers

After months of vaccine incentives, nation changes course

I guess you will have your opportunity to show how valid your concern is shortly by putting up with the new covid laws, like in; the ever present; can't race through a school zone without punishment even though you told them you are the best driver and they can't prove you have ever hit anyone yet. Or maybe the other way; welcome back Leprosy.

[Andyb]

I heard the FDA will be giving out free Kool-aide with the booster shots.

[Looking for next wife]

WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC NOW. Long term side effects are not as important as the immediate short term side effects of not getting it. DEATH.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by drducat

Here is one from the NIH.

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease - PubMed

"Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent."

The informed consent is part and parcel for clinical trials and they would be remiss for not including this informed consent as ADE has been an issue with traditional vaccines in the past. This does not mean that ADE has actually occurred with the mRNA vaccines but there is the possibility.

So far.....no evidence of ADE with mRNA vaccines that I have seen or read about. So......that's a good thing.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by drducat

Yes.....because previous animal trials ADE was prevalent and resulted in death to many. It is a matter of concern and when they get around to full disclosure...ADE will be on the label as a side affect.

OK. If you say so.