[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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oh please. Does it really matter what "the exact knot" was? It WAS NOT tied to the ceiling or rafter - THAT would have been COMPLETELY different and warrant concern for sure. BUT IT WAS a device to pull the door down if power went out, attached to the DOOR - which would have been on the FLOOR when the door is closed! Common sense> We have that on almost every garage door in The Villages. Most of ours are from the mfr and fashioned as a rope with a plastic pull. Someone at Talledega fashioned this rope (as a loop to put your fingers...) last Fall - so this was a conspiracy??? knowing that Bubba would be assigned that garage in June '20?

"Guess what. You have what many people could construe as a noose. Duh"

Sure by folks who want to gen up yet another News piece and create MORE racial tension. nice job folks - done well, and we are STILL talking about it. their objective.

I had to chuckle when I read your post. I believe you were actually defending my position. I never said it was a noose I was sarcastically responding to another post. Go up a couple of threads and you’ll see what I said. The FBI never said it was a noose. They said it was fashioned like a noose. Get any piece of rope and tie a loop around the end and guess what. You have a rope fashioned like a noose. In this case that rope actually had a purpose so that takes away the argument that it was specifically created as a racial statement. I just went into my garage and took a picture of the garage door release rope and handle. When I installed it the handle kept hitting my trucks windshield. So what did I do, I tied it up higher with a knot. Guess what, it seems to be fashioned like.....you guessed it, a small noose. I guess I’m a racist and don’t even know it. Wish I knew how to put a picture here.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Well, let's look at the facts.

Character Attacks (pull here)



The big question is..."why would anyone think fashioning a noose...would be appropriate in the first place?"

Oh yeah, that's right...I know why.

Given the history of racism within NASCAR and the use of nooses by white people to intimidate blacks throughout the history in this country, a lot of people would think it's funny...and no big deal.

Add the unwarranted attempted character assassination of Wallace, the outrage by many of NASCAR'S recent outright ban on confederate flags...I predict we'll see more cretins start coming out of the woodwork than usual.

I'm just grateful that this incident has an explanation...that wasn't driven by hate.

The main difference between Noose and a loop Knot is that the Noose is a loop at the end of a rope in which the knot tightens under load and can be loosened without untying it. A loop knot does not tighten under load. Any third grader can tell the difference, stick your hand in a noose and pull and the noose tightens. Stick your hand in a loop knot and the loop stays the same size, does not tighten.

The fact that Bubba Smollet/Juicy Wallace is still calling this a noose shows that the whole thing is a big lie. Here's a video from 2017 of the Talladega garages, in almost every garage you can see a loop knot tied at the end of the pull down rope.

GarageCam: Walk through the Camping World garage at Talladega - YouTube

Bubba has raced at Talladega 5 times since 2018. His Penske crew have been racing there for ages. Drivers are assigned different garage bays every time they race.

"I've been racing all of my life, we've raced out of hundreds of garages that never had garage pulls like that. ... It's a straight up noose."

Nooses have been used to hang people all over the globe for centuries. Asians, Caucasians, Latins, Blacks have all felt the hangman's knot. Blacks want to claim the noose as their own special symbol of racist hate. Be my guest but at least use actual nooses when you claim to be victims.

A loop knot is not "fashioned like a noose" and does not function like a noose. You can test the difference in 5 seconds. Bubba and crew have seen these loop knot pull downs before. This was just an opportune time for a hate crime hoax.

Here's a video of this hero, looks like a racist hate crime to me.

Bubba Wallace throws water in Alex Bowman's face after Charlotte Roval | Motorsports on NBC - YouTube

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

LOL The 1st photo was taken from a video posted on youtube by Rowdy Maglite posted in 2019, it shows all the garages with rope "noose" pull downs. Take a look for yourself

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Well, there went 14+ minutes of my life that I can't get back. Yeah, and after watching that stupid video twice, I'm calling your contention that all the garages in the video had nooses absolutely false. Even zoomed in, I saw ONE that was obviously tied like a noose & at least two that had no knot whatsoever.

Originally Posted by GoodLife

The 2nd photo, taken on day of incident, was taken by Racing News and shows the rope has been cut and no "noose"

FBI investigating noose hung in NASCAR garage - Racing News

Lots of hate crimes have been proven to be hoaxes.

If the NOOSECAR does not fit
It's too smollet to acquit

Questions remain:
(1) Why would you even fashion a door pull like a noose to begin with? There are plenty of other knots or even actual handles available.
(2) Anybody here have a noose for a garage door pull?
(3) Who actually cut the rope & was the noose found still attached to the door or inside the garage when found?
(4) Who is quicker to jump to conclusions: the people that found the "noose" or the people that automatically labelled the whole episode as a 'hoax'?

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by roscoguy

Well, there went 14+ minutes of my life that I can't get back. Yeah, and after watching that stupid video twice, I'm calling your contention that all the garages in the video had nooses absolutely false. Even zoomed in, I saw ONE that was obviously tied like a noose & at least two that had no knot whatsoever.



Questions remain:
(1) Why would you even fashion a door pull like a noose to begin with? There are plenty of other knots or even actual handles available.
(2) Anybody here have a noose for a garage door pull?
(3) Who actually cut the rope & was the noose found still attached to the door or inside the garage when found?
(4) Who is quicker to jump to conclusions: the people that found the "noose" or the people that automatically labelled the whole episode as a 'hoax'?

I posted the wrong video there, this one shows multiple bays at Talladega in 2017 with loop knots tied at the end of the pull down ropes. Bubba has raced at Talladega multiple times and his Penske crew even more. They have seen these before. This is a hoax.

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See post #56

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

7 months between photos, a lot can happen in 7 months and not part of a conspiracy theory.....just sayin.

What are you Just Sayin now?

The ONLY ‘conspiracy theory’ was the one brought on by those who jumped to the wrong conclusion by assuming that it MUST be a sign of hatefulness.

That was a bigoted conspiracy theory assumption but hey, let’s just ignore that, ok?

It’s great that the FBI investigated the facts and quickly quashed this story before it was spun of control against NASCAR. (Pun intended)

[airdale2]

MY tied shoelaces may appear like a noose if someone wants to see it that way.

[DALEPQ]

This just shows that the media is hell bent on continuing to create a narrative of chaos, without verification, nor any retraction that it was found to be false by the FBI. Very sad that the media is so biased!

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by airdale2

MY tied shoelaces may appear like a noose if someone wants to see it that way.

Shame on you. Get rid of those unacceptable shoes. Get new ones with Velcro. Not white Velcro. Also you better not have shorts that have strings.

[Buckeye Bob]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

We've seen "Smollett" style "hate crimes" being faked over and over. Student activists hang nooses on their door, write themselves fake hate letters etc so my spidey sense goes on alert every time I hear about one.

Something is very fishy about this one. The guy who discovered the "noose" called Nascar officials immediately and they were first on the scene, before the FBI.

Nascar President Steve Phelps was asked:

Can you confirm, was the rope the rope you would normally use to pull down the garage door?

Phelps: "I'm not sure, I have no information on that"

So none of the Nascar officials that went to the garage described the noose, took a cell photo of it and let Phelps know? I find that hard to believe.

Bubba is an outspoken proponent of Black Lives Matter, sported an "I can't breath tee shirt" which he has every right to do but also means he might want a big noose story in the press. Nascar is reopening with a big new marketing campaign, pushing for a more diverse audience and like many corporations, wants to show how "woke" they are.

If Nascar knew immediately that this was a case of mistaken identity, it was just a standard pulldown rope "noose" then they have perpetrated a fraud on the public by letting the story run. If they did this, they are going to try and cover it up.

NASCAR screwed up by immediately stating it was a noose and that when they find the perp, they will be banned for life. That leads everyone to assume it was a racist hate crime. Shame on NASCAR; they owe everyone an apology.

[nututv]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bob

NASCAR screwed up by immediately stating it was a noose and that when they find the perp, they will be banned for life. That leads everyone to assume it was a racist hate crime. Shame on NASCAR; they owe everyone an apology.

Nah, they caved to the crowd. The wrong crowd. Any apology from them wouldn't be worth the time it took to listen to it. I would say I'll never watch them again but I've never watched them before. lol

[GoodLife]

Talladega Nights 2 The Noosecar

Starring Bubba Smollete and Juicy Wallace

Shake and Fake

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

The main difference between Noose and a loop Knot is that the Noose is a loop at the end of a rope in which the knot tightens under load and can be loosened without untying it. A loop knot does not tighten under load. Any third grader can tell the difference, stick your hand in a noose and pull and the noose tightens. Stick your hand in a loop knot and the loop stays the same size, does not tighten.

The fact that Bubba Smollet/Juicy Wallace is still calling this a noose shows that the whole thing is a big lie. Here's a video from 2017 of the Talladega garages, in almost every garage you can see a loop knot tied at the end of the pull down rope.

GarageCam: Walk through the Camping World garage at Talladega - YouTube

Bubba has raced at Talladega 5 times since 2018. His Penske crew have been racing there for ages. Drivers are assigned different garage bays every time they race.

"I've been racing all of my life, we've raced out of hundreds of garages that never had garage pulls like that. ... It's a straight up noose."

Nooses have been used to hang people all over the globe for centuries. Asians, Caucasians, Latins, Blacks have all felt the hangman's knot. Blacks want to claim the noose as their own special symbol of racist hate. Be my guest but at least use actual nooses when you claim to be victims.

A loop knot is not "fashioned like a noose" and does not function like a noose. You can test the difference in 5 seconds. Bubba and crew have seen these loop knot pull downs before. This was just an opportune time for a hate crime hoax.

Here's a video of this hero, looks like a racist hate crime to me.

Bubba Wallace throws water in Alex Bowman's face after Charlotte Roval | Motorsports on NBC - YouTube

I had never heard of Bubba "Smollett" Wallace until this fake hate crime which was obviously a ploy designed to gain him national recognition. That he has worn a Burn Loot Murder T-shirt tells it all. His unsportsmanlike conduct says a lot, as well. He should be thrown out of NASCAR.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

YouTube

See post #56

BUSTED.

One only has to get to the 2:31 & 2:37 mark, to see where KNOTS not a NOOSE...are used for the door pulls.

The prosecution rests.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

BUSTED.

One only has to get to the 2:31 & 2:37 mark, to see where KNOTS not a NOOSE...are used for the door pulls.

The prosecution rests.

And one only has to get to 2:57 to start seeing lots of garages with loops at end of the ropes, including several nice closeups.

In Bubba's own words:

“When I did find out, I was very adamant on searching all of the garages and making sure that this wasn’t a garage pull and it ended up being one,” Wallace told Today Show on Wednesday morning. “The photo evidence that I’ve seen that I have in my possession of what was in our garage is exactly a garage pull, it is, that is a noose.

“It was not a functioning noose, but it was a noose." Bubba Wallace describes the garage door pull rope found in his garage stall at Talladega Superspeedway.

[GoodLife]

More things at Nascar Bubba might mistake for racist dog whistles

Burnt crosses



KKK hoods