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"The FBI has completed its investigation at Talladega Superspeedway and determined that Bubba Wallace was not the target of a hate crime. The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall. This was obviously well before the 43 team’s arrival and garage assignment."

...so as Roseanne Roseannadanna said. "Oh. That's very different. Never Mind".

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1790523)

Always trust content from Goodlife! Where's my Pulitzer? :icon_wink:

I want to know what Nascar knew, and when they knew it. I think they knew right away but the photo op was too good to pass up

There is a reckoning of a different order due.

Puhleeze. :1rotfl:

One more time being correct and you'll be tied...with a broken clock. :D

As for a "photo-op," where did you see photos of the rope...in this incident?

Not to mention, why would NASCAR want to bring such negative publicity?

And exactly what is this..."reckoning of a different order due?" :ohdear:

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1790538)

One time? LOL We should have a math and division seminar.

The photo op was all the Nascar drivers pushing Bubba's car in support. Nascar has a new marketing strategy which I explained up thread, they want to attract more diverse fans and like most corps nowadays, want to be perceived as woke.

I need more details on how this "racial hate crime" hoax was spread, who knew what and when they knew it. All someone had to do was look at the other car bays there, they all have "nooses" Could have been solved in 60 seconds.

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1790544)

One time? LOL We should have a math and division seminar.

The photo op was all the Nascar drivers pushing Bubba's car in support. Nascar has a new marketing strategy which I explained up thread, they want to attract more diverse fans and like most corps nowadays, want to be perceived as woke.

I need more details on how this "racial hate crime" hoax was spread, who knew what and when they knew it. All someone had to do was look at the other car bays there, they all have "nooses" Could have been solved in 60 seconds.

:1rotfl:

A "noose" is only ONE type of a "loop." :oops:

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1790551)

:1rotfl:

A "noose" is only ONE type of a "loop." :oops:

I didn't call it a noose, Nascar, Bubba, and the media did.

That's why I used quotes

Let me help

What do quotes around a word mean?
Quotation marks around single words can occasionally be used for emphasis, but only when quoting a word or term someone else used. Usually, this implies that the author doesn’t agree with the use of the term.

Only about 11-1/2 hours...to go. :1rotfl:

Somebody bought this story hook line and sinker, not me.

Sunday night marked a tipping point for NASCAR. Sunday night, the series disclosed that someone had left a noose — the symbol of this nation’s original sin, the undeniable message of intimidation, a sign so cruel and cutting it defies imagination — in the garage stall of Bubba Wallace, the Cup series’ lone Black driver.

No talk about boy scout knots and loops :ohdear:

Came back to say I am excited this was not a real threat.

Sorry, I am still sick of the constant conspiracy theories.

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1790581)

Came back to say I am excited this was not a real threat.

Some might find it hard to believe but...........me also.

Steve

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1790581)

Came back to say I am excited this was not a real threat.

Sorry, I am still sick of the constant conspiracy theories.

Well I am sick of the constant race hoaxes.

These garage pull down ropes at Talladega all have "nooses" on them In sixty seconds anyone who saw the pulldown rope or investigating this would have seen this.

Bubba knew this was a hoax
Nascar knew it was a hoax

They wanted to ride the woke train for cash and free publicity. The car walk with all the drivers was planned and staged even though they knew it was a hoax. It was all a show and of course the media outlets like CNN ran with it.

The View
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on those who believe the noose incident was staged: “It’s simple-minded people like that, the ones that are afraid of change, they use everything in their power to defend what they stand up for... instead of trying to listen and understand what’s going on.”

We understand what's going on Bubba, and we learned that you tried to pass off a pull down rope with a loop at the end as full blown hate crime.

Nascar President Steve Phelps: (after FBI said no hate crime)

“We are continuing our investigation as to why there was a rope fashioned into a noose,”

Sure buddy, you knew that Bubba's crew member cut the "noose" from the pull down rope and you also know that every garage bay at Talladega has one just like it. Your company owns the facility. What a joke.

If internet sleuths didn't track down the 2019 video showing all the Talladega garages had pulldown ropes with loops on them this hoax might still be alive. Shame on media like CNN who run anything that fits their agenda and do zero due diligence.

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Originally Posted by Goodlife

- We understand what's going on Bubba, and we learned that you tried to pass off a pull down rope with a loop at the end as full blown hate crime.

- ...and you also know that every garage bay at Talladega has one just like it.

1. Bubba never even saw the noose...it was someone else who saw and reported it. So trying to blame it on him, simply shows exactly what some people have been saying. :oops:

2. People need to educate themselves on the difference between a "loop" and a "noose." They are NOT the same...nor are they tied the same.

3. While every door has a "rope," (probably a lot with some type of "loop" at the end and probably some with a simple knot at the end)...there is NOT a "noose" in every stall at Talladega. That's simply a made up lie...to justify other things.

4. Bucco nailed it about all of the "conspiracies." Most of them seem meant to excuse, what most decent people...find abhorrent. :ohdear:

Instead of buying into conspiracy theories maybe we should admit that there are active racists amongst us who spread hate and anger that I'll affects all of us.

NOOSECAR?

You'll crack me up!

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1790647)

1. Bubba never even saw the noose...it was someone else who saw and reported it. So trying to blame it on him, simply shows exactly what some people have been saying.

Typical straw man response. The quote you responded to doesn't say Wallace saw the rope.

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1790647)

2. People need to educate themselves on the difference between a "loop" and a "noose." They are NOT the same...nor are they tied the same.

Thank goodness we have an expert on noose-creation here. By definition, a noose is a loop. What distinguishes it is that it acts like a slipknot and tightens when pulled.

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1790647)

3. While every door has a "rope," (probably a lot with some type of "loop" at the end and probably some with a simple knot at the end)...there is NOT a "noose" in every stall at Talladega. That's simply a made up lie...to justify other things.

Funny how Wallace is now doubling down on this being a noose, even after the investigation:

Wallace speaking to CNN's Don Lemon

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1790326)

We have seen some stories about "nooses" found recently that turned out to be hoaxes or cases of mistaken identity. Recently in an Oakland park, several "nooses" were found and made a big splash in the media about hateful racist symbols. Then a black man came forward and told authorities that he and his friends put the "nooses" there to use for some kind of swing exercise.

‘Nooses’ in Oakland park were exercise aids, man says

So recently a noose was found in Bubba Wallace's race car bay at a Nascar race. From what I have read, Bubba did not find the noose, it was somebody authorized to be in there. If you have ever been to a Nascar race you would know it is not easy to get even near these bays that house multi million dollar race cars and lots of expensive equipment.

The FBI was on the case immediately, they probably have the noose, but no photos of it have been released to my knowledge. Reports do not seem to mention where it was found, although some say "hanging"

Now some people have been analyzing photos of these garage bays at Talledega taken before and after the incident, and they have noticed something curious.

Almost every bay has a rope with a noose that are used to pull down the garage bay doors. However, photos of Bubba's bay 4 garage on day of incident show only a much shorter rope and no noose.

This is a photo of Bay 4 taken in November 2019 on the left, you can clearly see the rope with a noose and it's length. On the right is photo after incident showing rope cut and no noose..

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This is a photo of Bay 4 on day of incident, you can see Bubba's car inside and also some FBI agents inside talking to someone. The rope pull is clearly shorter and there is no noose. You can see the rope in Bay 5 to the left

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So what does one make of this?

Maybe the FBI will come up with a photo of the noose made from different rope.

Maybe someone managed to cut the pulldown rope noose and place it in the garage. I am pretty sure Nascar has surveillance cameras in this area so we will see.

Maybe whomever discovered the "noose" was not aware that all the bays at Talledega have these "noose like" garage door pulldowns and panicked, thinking it was a racist hate symbol designed to intimidate Bubba.

We shall see. If someone placed a noose deliberately in Bubba's garage then I hope they are caught and prosecuted. If someone mistook the rope pull down for a noose then they need to say my bad and apologize. If someone cooked this up to create a story then they need to be prosecuted.

Actually, who cares? Take the news with a grain of salt. Each paper has a different spin on things so read them all if you want, then start your day. No one knows the true stories so? Who cares?...