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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1790771)

First it wasn't even a noose. It was a rope tied to the door with a loop to pull the door down. Is anyone sorry? Nope. Let's use this to promote BLM.

CBS at this time is interviewing Bubba for some reason and they are still calling it a noose. Bubba is a little down... because it wasn't a noose. Agenda.

Wrong...and just more 'fake news.' :oops:

It WAS a noose, as reported by the FBI and NASCAR and it was NASCAR itself, that told Bubba about it...as he never even actually saw it.

Given the dozens of ways to make a "loop," or even just tying a knot at the end of the rope to pull down the stall door...why the continued excusing of an actual noose?

Particularly given the history of NASCAR'S fans...and now that confederate flags are banned?

That was a rhetorical question, of course...because we all know why.

But don't let facts get in the way. :ohdear:

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1790387)

So, this may be much ado about nothing, a tempest in a teapot or a Smollett style maneuver?

That is an insulting and demeaning comment. Wallace never even saw the "noose;" he was informed about it by the President of NASCAR.

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Originally Posted by BossLady (Post 1790797)

Gees... Do you think its possible that some mechanic saw the loop and was concerned for a black friend when there is a lot of weird stuff going on??
Maybe it was an overreaction from a well-meaning colleague?
Maybe Bubba got dragged into a situation?
Maybe he wishes this hadn’t happened at all.

Frankly this forum is mean, boring, monopolized by the same old, pot-stirring voices, the same repetitive “anti” opinions. This forum douses my enthusiasm for TV.

How dare you write such an accurate...and excellent post? :oops:

You will now become a target, of which given those who will spew their vitriol and lead the attacks...you should wear it as a badge of honor. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1790817)

That is an insulting and demeaning comment. Wallace never even saw the "noose;" he was informed about it by the President of NASCAR.

While your attempt to educate is laudable, truth and facts will never matter...to certain folks. :ohdear:

You’re one I’m talking about...

Again... loop, rope, noose, whatever... Let’s be kind. Someone got concerned and reported something. It was found to be nothing harmful. Let’s be kind about/to the guy who now gets to deal with all of this...

Offering kindness goes a long way to making one feel better about themselves.

Just heard on the news this morning that the rope had been on the door for over a year and the driver's weren't even assigned their garage bay until last week before the race.

You would think just knowing that this is a temporary stall and no one even knew who would occupy it, that someone with half a brain could of figured this out, before it became the NATIONAL FAKE NEWS STORY OF THE WEEK!! Why let FACTS get in the way of a good story!!

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1790817)

That is an insulting and demeaning comment. Wallace never even saw the "noose;" he was informed about it by the President of NASCAR.

Wallace commented on the noose as though it was fact. Watched his interview last night. He needs to apologize to his dwindling fan base. And to the 15 FBI agents that worked the case. AND he needs to get rid of the Black Lives Matter on his car. I find that very offensive.

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If ANYONE desires an example of FAKE NEWS - This one is right up top.

And as usual, when these occur, the Media sweeps it under the rug. Like a retraction of falsehoods from a newspaper that ends up on page C27.

Common sense on this "noose" topic SHOULD HAVE been renounced within 15 minutes, and NEVER reached media. Sign of our times, and so sad.

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1790721)

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I must say, I am so very tired of this story. I wake up to a local NewsRadio show every morning. This topic was discussed ad nauseam for over 1/2 hour. OMG. Let's review.

Media - "A NOOSE IS FOUND IN BUBBA WALLACE"S GARAGE AT TELLADAGA!!!
RACIST SYMBOL FOUND IN ONLY BLACK NASCAR DRIVER'S GARAGE" NASCAR AND FBI INVESTIGATING! 15 FBI AGENTS ASSIGNED AND WILL THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATE THIS HATE CRIME! NASCAR CHIEF VOWS THAT PERP WILL BE PROCECUTED AS A FEDERAL CRIME!!! ALL DRIVERS BAND TOGETHER IN SORROW FOR BUBBA AND THIS DISPICABLE ACT!!! YET ANOTHER HORRIBLE HATE CRIME IN THE USA!

This went on for days - reporters on site, interviews, parades in support, live coverage nationwide, etc etc. BIG NEWS!!!!!!!!! MEDIA SWARMS all over this topic - RACIST!!!!

...then after days of MEDIA Blitz... never mind, it was just a garage door pull that's been there for 9 months.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Anyone with common sense, looking at the "scene" could see the rope was connected to the door, and would be laying on the ground when the door was closed. It was a common way to close a manual overhead door. Used millions of times over the years (including in my garages at times). Is it a RACIST SYMBOL!!!! nope, just a simple way to attach and use. A call to previous users of this garage would have shown - it's been there for a long time, and NOT put up to harass Bubba or Blacks. period. But - what happens - escalate to the media and the swarm begins. HOURS and HOURS of national/worlwide coverage, creating a swell of anger. ...then "never mind".

“On Monday, fifteen FBI special agents conducted numerous interviews regarding the situation at Talladega Superspeedway. After a thorough review of the facts and evidence surrounding the event, we have concluded that no federal crime was committed.

The FBI learned that garage number 4, where the noose was found, was assigned to Bubba Wallace last week. The investigation also revealed evidence, including authentic video confirmed by NASCAR, that the noose found in garage number 4 was in that garage as early as October 2019. Although the noose is now known to have been in garage number 4 in 2019, nobody could have known Mr. Wallace would be assigned to garage number 4 last week.

The decision not to pursue federal charges is proper after reviewing all available facts and all applicable federal laws. We offer our thanks to NASCAR, Mr. Wallace and everyone who cooperated with this investigation.”

NASCAR said it was thankful that there was no intentional act committed against Wallace.

“The FBI has completed its investigation at Talladega Superspeedway and determined that Bubba Wallace was not the target of a hate crime,” the statement reads. “The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall.

“This was obviously well before the 43 team’s arrival and garage assignment. We appreciate the FBI’s quick and thorough investigation and are thankful to learn that this was not an intentional, racist act against Bubba. We remain steadfast in our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all who love racing.”

Still waiting for an apology from Bubba Wallace and NASCAR for all the hype their false claim has caused in this country.

An apology from Bubba Wallace and NASCAR for creating such fear in our country would be great.

Has anyone actually seen this “noose”. Was it a bowline with an extra couple of twists and then interpreted as a noose? About 6 months ago I was thinking of going on my rooftop in GA. I got paracord and googled knots. It was pretty interesting. I made a bunch of knots. I didn’t make a noose, not because of a potential racial connection but because it was more work than I wanted to do. But I was tempted. Glad I didn’t because I would have obviously been a racist if I did so. So to simply make a racial connection to a piece of rope with a complicated knot seems like an intentional stretch. Incidentally, I never went up on the roof. And I recommend getting some rope and learn to make some knots. It was actually fun.

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1790871)

this was it> (duhhhh)>

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1790881)

this was it> (duhhhh)>

I can’t see the exact knot. Look up bowline. Have it hanging from the ceiling to connect to something. Guess what. You have what many people could construe as a noose. Duh

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1790889)

I can’t see the exact knot. Look up bowline. Have it hanging from the ceiling to connect to something. [B]Guess what. You have what many people could construe as a noose. Duh[/B]

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oh please. Does it really matter what "the exact knot" was? It WAS NOT tied to the ceiling or rafter - THAT would have been COMPLETELY different and warrant concern for sure. BUT IT WAS a device to pull the door down if power went out, attached to the DOOR - which would have been on the FLOOR when the door is closed! Common sense> We have that on almost every garage door in The Villages. Most of ours are from the mfr and fashioned as a rope with a plastic pull. Someone at Talledega fashioned this rope (as a loop to put your fingers...) last Fall - so this was a conspiracy??? knowing that Bubba would be assigned that garage in June '20?

"Guess what. You have what many people could construe as a noose. Duh"

Sure by folks who want to gen up yet another News piece and create MORE racial tension. nice job folks - done well, and we are STILL talking about it. their objective.