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Old 09-15-2021, 10:32 AM
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Never listen to propaganda....They are the problem. Not blaming them for what they are being paid by what ever foreign power to mock each other about.
A source of propaganda...........calling the kettle black.......that is ironic. And don't you-all be confused by my mixed metaphor.
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Old 09-15-2021, 10:34 AM
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Reuters is not a "source" of scientific information. It's a media outlet that reports FROM actual sources.

Not to be confused with "media" like OANN, which is an "alternative facts" outlet that writes mostly emotionally charged rhetoric with snippets of quotes taken out of context, and passes it off as facts.

Reuters can sometimes be wrong, and can sometimes lapse in their fact-checking. Compare with OANN, which doesn't bother with pesky details like fact checking, and is often not merely wrong, but intentionally wrong.
I agree with this post.
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Old 09-15-2021, 10:40 AM
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To be honest it is really hard to tell...We have Pakistan, UK, Bangladesh where Delta took roots and with the amount of travel??? No one knows and it can't be ascertained.
Just like bats or Chinese Scientists caused CV ........or aliens or gypsies or Sonny Liston or Carrot Top or etc. etc.
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Old 09-15-2021, 10:53 AM
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I noticed in the study that the RESULTS for the VACCINATED were better than for the UNVACCINATED. Isn't this the point of fact that many here are TRYING to shoot down (for who knows what nefarious reason) - yet, they FAIL in attempt after attempt at causing chaos by throwing SHADE on the VACCINATION (don't call it jabs like a 6th grader would) PROCESS. But, FACTS and SCIENCE always seem to be on the SIDE for vaccination.
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Old 09-15-2021, 10:59 AM
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Works for me. Less worry, longer life.
Got to LOVE a person willing to admit character flaws in public! Socrates often said, "know thyself"!
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:20 AM
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Patriotism?
Good try, but no dice. That dog don't hunt. Love of one's country has nothing to do with what YOU deem is right for other people, such as being vaccinated.

It would be a lot easier for those "vaccinated" persons that fear getting infected, to stay home where they would not have to worry about anyone else infecting them. Since the vaccinated can still become infected and/or infect others, if they are afraid they should stay home where they can be assured of their safety. After all, those that are unvaccinated, have no idea whether or not they are infected and probably do not care.

Patriotism? That is like accusing someone of being a racist if they do not agree with you.
Come on Man!
I think that PATRIOTISM and getting VACCINATED actually 'fit together like a hand and glove' - to quote a common expression. One could go so far as to call the vaccinated people.........socially conscious human beings. And call the unvaccinated......... anti-social, indoctrinated-by-propaganda people, that trend toward the anarchy, anti-government end of the spectrum - some of which are perfectly willing to use force and violence to achieve chaos and government-toppling. Where does being anti-social stop? Facebook and Instagram push young males and females into dark corners of confusion, despair, and often even hatred of themselves. Yes, vaccine strength may be waning after 6 to 8 months, but Facebook and other dark media will continue until STOPPED by Federal Governments around the world. As long as the US remains free, most people will TRUST our Government!
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:22 AM
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Righhhhhht!
Yes, right!

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Old 09-15-2021, 11:27 AM
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The discussion section states "The findings indicate with moderate certainty that ivermectin treatment in COVID-19 provides a significant survival benefit."



Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infectio... : American Journal of Therapeutics
Ivermectin is a "bridge too far". Next, we will be told that instead of taking the vaccine - we should all try ground rhinoceros horn to prevent CV and give lifetime immunity. Better hide those rhinos that are in the zoos!
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:42 AM
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I think that PATRIOTISM and getting VACCINATED actually 'fit together like a hand and glove' - to quote a common expression. One could go so far as to call the vaccinated people.........socially conscious human beings. And call the unvaccinated......... anti-social, indoctrinated-by-propaganda people, that trend toward the anarchy, anti-government end of the spectrum - some of which are perfectly willing to use force and violence to achieve chaos and government-toppling. Where does being anti-social stop? Facebook and Instagram push young males and females into dark corners of confusion, despair, and often even hatred of themselves. Yes, vaccine strength may be waning after 6 to 8 months, but Facebook and other dark media will continue until STOPPED by Federal Governments around the world. As long as the US remains free, most people will TRUST our Government!
Whatever that all means. Let me make one correction for you. "As long as the US remains free.." is the ONLY way the people will trust the Government. When the gov takes away freedom (and it has been whittling away at it) it becomes despised, not trusted.
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Ivermectin is a "bridge too far". Next, we will be told that instead of taking the vaccine - we should all try ground rhinoceros horn to prevent CV and give lifetime immunity. Better hide those rhinos that are in the zoos!
I suppose some folks thought that way about mold that was later labeled Penicillin. But there is nothing wrong with a bit of sarcasm, so have at it.
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Ivermectin is a "bridge too far". Next, we will be told that instead of taking the vaccine - we should all try ground rhinoceros horn to prevent CV and give lifetime immunity. Better hide those rhinos that are in the zoos!
So you agree to side with Science right up until it disagrees with you in studies and effective use by populations unable to get/afford other treatments??

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Lately, I have been hearing the word "jabs" so much that I feel that I am listening to an announcer from the "Rocky" movie.
Nevertheless .....The Kaiser Family Foundation did a 3 months-long study about the cost of Hospitalization incurred by UNvaccinated CV patients - for the last 3 months the cost was $ 5.7 Billion - that is 5.7 Billion American dollars - that is Billion with a B !
You act like billion is lot of money. Well,it is if you’re accountable for it. If not it’s like spending quarters in dime store.
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EXPLOSIVE Truth About Vaccines & COVID w/Inventor Of mRNA Vaccine Technology, Robert Malone - YouTube

The guy credited with developing MRNA vaccines and his thoughts on what's going on very interesting.
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Ivermectin is a "bridge too far". Next, we will be told that instead of taking the vaccine - we should all try ground rhinoceros horn to prevent CV and give lifetime immunity. Better hide those rhinos that are in the zoos!
A vaccine should never made it off the shelf......No need when we have multiple therapeutics that work fast. Goes against the rules a tad.....


33 districts in Uttar Pradesh are now Covid-free: State govt - Hindustan Times


Uttar Pradesh: 23 districts are now Covid-19 free, recovery rate over 98% - Coronavirus Outbreak News


Uttar Pradesh government says early use of Ivermectin helped to keep positivity, deaths low | Cities News,The Indian Express


Do we need more proof?

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Old 09-15-2021, 05:52 PM
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Have you ever been to India? To have some idea how trust worthy some of their data is. What do you think of N Korea they have no, never had one, ever, cases of Covid.
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