[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

A better analogy: My neighbor got a DUI, therefore I shouldn't drive, either (even though I have a perfect driving record and never drink).

If you have gotten your vaccination, you are safe! You won't be getting the virus from anyone else.Time to stop worrying about what others are doing and live your life.

My concern for others has nothing to do with my being vaccinated. It is my belief that we as a society should all do our part to help solve problems that affect all of us.

I know, I am just one of those, "I got mine, so screw you" liberals.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Would you please provide a link, reference, or anything that confirms anyone has ever said ALL maskers are considerate or others?

Nothing like painting with a broad brush.

Nice try. This is supposed to be intimidating how?

[charmed59]

Originally Posted by camaguey48

But, but, but. How do we know who is fully vaccinated? Do we carry a "I'm fully vaccinated" ID card? A arm patch? A decal on our car? How do we know? Ask, maybe? That could get a little uncomfortable.

It’s on the honor system. We need to trust our fellow citizens will do the honorable thing.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

My concern for others has nothing to do with my being vaccinated. It is my belief that we as a society should all do our part to help solve problems that affect all of us.

I know, I am just one of those, "I got mine, so screw you" liberals.

Drunk driving is a societal problem. Time to hand over all our driver's licenses and give up our cars. You know that would make no sense.

Neither did shutting down schools to "keep kids safe". Now there could be as many as 3 million children who haven't attended school online or in person in over a year.

We have to use common sense. Certainly making sure that the most vulnerable get top priority for receiving the vaccine was a good, common sense move.

Demanding that all others follow suit, whether they've already had the virus or not, is not reasonable. They are not at great risk from the virus to begin with and the vaccine is not without potential side effects, some of them pretty serious.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Justus

Nice try. This is supposed to be intimidating how?

I don't see anything about my post that should be construed as intimidating. It certainly was not intended that way.

I read an article about how to make people, not like you the other day, it was based on people assuming negative intent in other people's comments.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Drunk driving is a societal problem. Time to hand over all our driver's licenses and give up our cars. You know that would make no sense.

Neither did shutting down schools to "keep kids safe". Now there could be as many as 3 million children who haven't attended school online or in person in over a year.

We have to use common sense. Certainly making sure that the most vulnerable get top priority for receiving the vaccine was a good, common sense move.

Demanding that all others follow suit, whether they've already had the virus or not, is not reasonable. They are not at great risk from the virus to begin with and the vaccine is not without potential side effects, some of them pretty serious.

No, we DONT have to use common sense. Children can not get into public schools without being vaccinated because it puts other people at risk. Putting other people are risk is a reasonable thing to make illegal. Like drunk driving, speeding, etc. Active choices that endanger other people.

This has nothing to do with limiting YOUR rights, it has to do with people making choices that put other peoples live at risk

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

No, we DONT have to use common sense. Children can not get into public schools without being vaccinated because it puts other people at risk. Putting other people are risk is a reasonable thing to make illegal. Like drunk driving, speeding, etc. Active choices that endanger other people.

This has nothing to do with limiting YOUR rights, it has to do with people making choices that put other peoples live at risk

Florida kids have had the option of attending their physical schools or distance learning since August. Most of the kids in my county returned to their physical schools well before a Covid vaccine was available. So, yes, while there are certain childhood vaccinations that are required to attend school, a flu vaccine and a Covid vaccine are not among them.

No common sense would be along the lines of putting Covid patients into nursing homes with vulnerable elderly people. Everyone knows better than that, right?

Florida kids did just fine attending their physical schools. It made good common sense for them to go back exactly when they did.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

No, we DONT have to use common sense. Children can not get into public schools without being vaccinated because it puts other people at risk. Putting other people are risk is a reasonable thing to make illegal. Like drunk driving, speeding, etc. Active choices that endanger other people.

This has nothing to do with limiting YOUR rights, it has to do with people making choices that put other peoples live at risk

The vaccines currently required for school children are to prevent diseases that are dangerous to children. Covid is not...
In fact Covid is not dangerous to most Americans who are not overweight/obese and have multiple other existing health issues - according to the CDC...

[Tmarkwald]

Covid vaccine is mandatory for nearly every university and rapidly becoming mandatory for every school district. Mandatory vaccinations are upheld by the U S Supreme Court.

[Bay Kid]

My Granddaughter has been in school all year. All of the older members of my family have been vaccinated. Life should get back to normal. If you are not vaccinated by now be careful, but let the rest of the world be set free from govern control.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

My Granddaughter has been in school all year. All of the older members of my family have been vaccinated. Life should get back to normal. If you are not vaccinated by now be careful, but let the rest of the world be set free from govern control.

agreed, that's exactly the right way to put it!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

What I would like to see is the people on The Today Show move closer together on set. I know they are all vaccinated because they all received their first shots on camera so they could set a good example to the American people. Now lets show everyone that they trust the vaccine and move closer together. Same with Kelly and Ryan. What is stopping them from getting closer together? They do that trick photography with the camera to make it look like they are sitting close together but they are really very well separated.

If everyone is vaccinated, they should show their confidence in the vaccines.

Quoting myself here. The Today Show people are back to sitting close together at their desk on set. They are fully vaccinated and are now following the CDC guidelines for fully vaccinated people. I'm very happy to see this.

Now for Kelly and Ryan. Can't wait to see if they will be sitting close together on set.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Justus

You know...I was at a breakfast shop in TV on Saturday. A fully masked woman was standing in line by our table as we were eating. She suddenly pulled her mask off, sneezed on me and my food, then replaced her mask. Two weeks ago, I saw a fully masked man at the coffee/condiment bar. He pulled up his mask, licked his entire row of fingers, and proceeded to handle all items within his reach - with those fingers. That same day, another fully masked woman and her fully masked husband came in to sit at the table next to us. Before taking their seats, she pulled a large bottle of disinfectant from her purse and wiped down every surface. Halfway through her meal, she pulled her mask off and sneezed loudly into the open air, then replaced her mask. So DO please preach the line of how "considerate and caring of others" all the "maskers" are compared to those of us who choose to breathe.

My only response to these scenarios you mentioned are that people are CLUELESS. They have no idea why they are even wearing a mask. OR.....they feel their mask is solely protecting them. Again.......hopelessly CLUELESS!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by charmed59

It’s on the honor system. We need to trust our fellow citizens will do the honorable thing.

Hate to say it but, this is laughable.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Hate to say it but, this is laughable.

Yeah, especially considering we had someone on here talking about how they were going to falsify a document to show they were vaccinated when in fact they were not.

There should be fines and consequences for anyone that does this. Lifetime bans from airlines and cruiselines, stores, etc. Plus remuneration to people and companies affected by their dishonesty.