[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Yeah, especially considering we had someone on here talking about how they were going to falsify a document to show they were vaccinated when in fact they were not.

There should be fines and consequences for anyone that does this. Lifetime bans from airlines and cruiselines, stores, etc. Plus remuneration to people and companies affected by their dishonesty.

Who might that be, other unvaccinated people?

Better idea: Forget documentation, protect yourself and stay out of other people's medical decisions.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Quoting myself here. The Today Show people are back to sitting close together at their desk on set. They are fully vaccinated and are now following the CDC guidelines for fully vaccinated people. I'm very happy to see this.

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Thank God! Now I can get back to living

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Yeah, especially considering we had someone on here talking about how they were going to falsify a document to show they were vaccinated when in fact they were not.

There should be fines and consequences for anyone that does this. Lifetime bans from airlines and cruiselines, stores, etc. Plus remuneration to people and companies affected by their dishonesty.

Yeah.....that's why we need to get tatoo'd or chipped

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by stanley

Yeah.....that's why we need to get tatoo'd or chipped

I prefer the chip idea. That way, not only will the government (and every teenage hacker) know your vaccination status, but also your location at all times, where you shop, what movies you go to, what church/temple/mosque you attend, if you go to a gun range, what speed you drive at, and your heart rate during sex-----all the stuff that was encouraged by the 4th amendment

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by stanley

Yeah.....that's why we need to get tatoo'd or chipped

lol

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Forget documentation, protect yourself and stay out of other people's medical decisions.

Their medical decisions can adversely affect many people.

Think of quarantines cause by a breakout at a resort, on a cruiseship, a community, even an flight.

All because somebody selfishly put themselves ahead of others.

[Byte1]

Seems to me that a lot of folks are presuming that anyone that is not vaccinated is infected and contagious. How do you all get the idea that anyone not vaccinated is putting you in danger? I have my shots but I went a year and a half living pretty much normally without being vaccinated. Of course, I am sure that some of you will automatically accuse me of being asymptomatic, right? So much mass hysteria. How this country survived this long is a miracle. Obviously, our parents were stronger than the present generations. Some folks need the gov to mandate seat belts on your office chairs.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Their medical decisions can adversely affect many people.

Think of quarantines cause by a breakout at a resort, on a cruiseship, a community, even an flight.

All because somebody selfishly put themselves ahead of others.

Breakouts among what group? Vaccinated people are already protected. Get a vaccination and you won't be part of any breakout. You can't prevent those in charge from overreacting (we've seen many examples in the last year) but quarantining vaccinated people to protect against a breakout that is statistically impossible seems foolish.

In no way would I condone falsifying documents. In my perfect world there would be no documents to falsify. That said, I would rather take the risk that someone might "selfishly put themselves ahead of others" than give up my right to privacy.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Breakouts among what group? Vaccinated people are already protected. Get a vaccination and you won't be part of any breakout. You can't prevent those in charge from overreacting (we've seen many examples in the last year) but quarantining vaccinated people to protect against a breakout that is statistically impossible seems foolish.

In no way would I condone falsifying documents. In my perfect world there would be no documents to falsify. That said, I would rather take the risk that someone might "selfishly put themselves ahead of others" than give up my right to privacy.

I agree - I was not inferring a breakout amongst vaccinated people - that is a statistical impossibility. I meant a breakout amongst the foolish, which in turn affects everyone in the larger group.

That is why said forced quarantine due to a breakout. I am not worried - I had Covid before we knew what it was - Dec/Jan 2020 and had antibodies confirmed in April and vaccinated early this year.... But I don't want to be stuck somewhere because some selfish people decided to falsify documents and not wear masks.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Seems to me that a lot of folks are presuming that anyone that is not vaccinated is infected and contagious. How do you all get the idea that anyone not vaccinated is putting you in danger? I have my shots but I went a year and a half living pretty much normally without being vaccinated. Of course, I am sure that some of you will automatically accuse me of being asymptomatic, right? So much mass hysteria. How this country survived this long is a miracle. Obviously, our parents were stronger than the present generations. Some folks need the gov to mandate seat belts on your office chairs.

maybe you weren’t around during polio before the shots when people listened to every rumor about ways to get it and pools, movie theaters and other public places were sometimes closed , or the early days of AIDS when gay people were attacked , many disowned by families and again rumors of all different things you could catch it from and on a lighter note but just as ridiculous the fights about fluoride being put in the water and the experts telling us how bad it was . If the internet had been around then I thing we wouldn’t have enough dentists to fix the amount of cavities people would have and I’m sure we wouldn’t have been able to get rid of polio because so many would claim I have a constitution right to be a fool

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Their medical decisions can adversely affect many people.

Think of quarantines cause by a breakout at a resort, on a cruiseship, a community, even an flight.

All because somebody selfishly put themselves ahead of others.

Umm, the only people catching the virus would be the like minded unvaccinated passengers so why are you worried about this?

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Umm, the only people catching the virus would be the like minded unvaccinated passengers so why are you worried about this?

Because health authorities won't care - they'll throw you into quarantine as well.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Umm, the only people catching the virus would be the like minded unvaccinated passengers so why are you worried about this?

There are more concerns than un-vaccinated people catching the virus. Those who are not vaccinated will continue to perpetuate the pandemic by allowing the virus to continue to mutate and create new variants. The current vaccines which have been used to inoculate millions of people globally, may be rendered useless. Booster shots may be in every vaccinated person's future because of people who will not be vaccinated for what ever reason they have.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Umm, the only people catching the virus would be the like minded unvaccinated passengers so why are you worried about this?

Ok, case in point - You're on a cruise / you're in a resort for a weeklong vacation.

There are 5000 people with you - this is a 100% vaccinated activity.

All safe, no masks, no social distancing.

A large number of unvaccinated people have false documentation and there is an outbreak.

Everyone goes into lockdown. Your vacation is ruined and they force-quarantine you for 21 days.

That's why we worry about the unvaccinated. Because their selfishness just ruined everything.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Ok, case in point - You're on a cruise / you're in a resort for a weeklong vacation.

There are 5000 people with you - this is a 100% vaccinated activity.

All safe, no masks, no social distancing.

A large number of unvaccinated people have false documentation and there is an outbreak.

Everyone goes into lockdown. Your vacation is ruined and they force-quarantine you for 21 days.

That's why we worry about the unvaccinated. Because their selfishness just ruined everything.

I get what you are saying but I wouldn't travel to a destination that required Covid vaccinations and instituted lock downs. That is not my idea of a vacation.

I'll go to the places that aren't crazy. If you look at how many unvaccinated people have been going to work and to school over the past year you would realize that mass Covid quarantines are stupid and completely unnecessary.