[tomhinz]

Agreed

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

I’m not sure what it’s the beginning of. It could be the beginning of police saying I’m not going to arrest that guy or I could end up in prison or loose my pension. Let’s see what the crime statistics look like in two years. No one knows where this is going.

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THAT has ALREADY started across the USA. And as time goes on, LEO's could very well plug that into their initial decision-making when protecting us all and enforcing laws.

Like - 'He's running - he's 'of color' - nope, not worth it. and off he goes to be a repeat offender.

Can't blame them. I would not want to be a LEO, or anyone in family or friends nowadays. It's simply a no-win.
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[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

I don’t believe that at all. I think actions have consequences and in this case the officer was wrong to use that kind of force. If you believe that police officers kill people because they are black, does it also hold true that they kill twice as many white people a year because they are white?

Things are quite different when you are there. We sit here in the safety of our computer room saying what should have been.

I lived in a city housing project till I was 13. My dad an injured WWII vet increased his income through hard work. By high school we had moved in to a upper middle class neighborhood. I recall in high school 1968, the subject of race, came up. The riots were not where we lived but in the cities. I offered a tour of where I used to live. Of course,
I was shut up.

How many times do we hear people say I don't go there. I have lived there and was glad to get out.

[Chuckndianne]

Simply - “BS” to simplistic thinking from simple minds!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

There is never an excuse or justification to burn down and destroy people’s property and steal from their businesses. If you want to march in protest that’s fine, but I feel these incidents have little to do with “Justice” and more about destroying places and getting free stuff. Where is the “Justice” for people who’s lives and businesses are destroyed that had nothing to do with the latest case that’s used as an excuse to behave in this way?

Exactly. The police are told to look the other way while people who put their life savings and blood sweat and tears into building their businesses had everything destroyed.

Still amazed that black leadership does not point out that the rioters and looters are destroying the jobs that many of their people worked at.

Nothing at all wrong with peaceful protest but no excuse for what happened after the murder.

[Toymeister]

I don't know about you but this thread has given me an amazing number of posters to add to my ignore list!

[Pat La Rosa]

I find it amazing how much money towns and cities pay people who probably earn minimum wage. I had an apartment building and one night a drunken friend who was visiting one of the tenants was sitting on the railing in front of the apartment and fell off it and hit his head. He was earning $8.00 an hour and did not lose one hours time from work. He sued me and the insurance company paid him over $200,000.00. You wonder how the insurance companies and cities come up with these astronomical figures. I think including "Go Fund Me" Floyd's family and friends received over $40,000,000. Just saying, is that fair. People are dying from Covid and no one is getting a dime from China. Why????

[jimbomaybe]

Murder = knowingly,intentionally without legal justification cause the death of another person.. he did all those things?

[christine J Toft]

Originally Posted by djspinner1

This was nothing but politics. It was wrong what he did but he did not get a fair trail.
Put your self on that jury, would you have said not guilty knowing what would happen.

I would have done the job I took an oath to do. Period. And from my perspective, the jury did just that.

[rlcooper70]

Odd ... when I watch a video of someone being killed and then hear that the jury deliberated for too short a time ... I find myself wondering .... "should I believe the story told by the defense or my own eyes?" Easy answer.

[blueash]

Fox News must be hitting hard on the jury being a bunch of weak willed people who were so intimidated by potential riots that they totally ignored the oath they took when they were sworn in, that they ignored all the evidence that Chauvin was really innocent, that they by a 12 to 0 vote in just a few hours unanimously agreed to falsely convict him without even one true patriot holding out for a hung jury. Every juror was interviewed before being allowed to sit for this trial. There were eight whites on the jury, all 8 of which agreed with the jury verdicts on all three charges.

Yet on this very website we have people spouting nonsense about how Chauvin was innocent. What convicted Chauvin was his own brutality, his murder of G. Floyd, and most importantly that he was video taped doing it. No opportunity to lie his way out of it. The earlier post calling Black people animals has now been removed. But racism is huge on this website and in this country. If you don't believe that cops just might let Whites get away with ignoring their orders, and threatening to kill the cop, and picking up a gun sitting on the car seat and fleeing all without being tased or shot

-- He refuses to put his hands on the steering wheel

-- He refuses to get out of the car

-- He puts his hand on his gun

-- He twice threatens to shoot the cop

-- He closes the car door and speeds away

You suspect and know in your heart this would have gone differently if that driver were Black.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by blueash

Fox News must be hitting hard on the jury being a bunch of weak willed people who were so intimidated by potential riots that they totally ignored the oath they took when they were sworn in, that they ignored all the evidence that Chauvin was really innocent, that they by a 12 to 0 vote in just a few hours unanimously agreed to falsely convict him without even one true patriot holding out for a hung jury. Every juror was interviewed before being allowed to sit for this trial. There were eight whites on the jury, all 8 of which agreed with the jury verdicts on all three charges.

Yet on this very website we have people spouting nonsense about how Chauvin was innocent. What convicted Chauvin was his own brutality, his murder of G. Floyd, and most importantly that he was video taped doing it. No opportunity to lie his way out of it. The earlier post calling Black people animals has now been removed. But racism is huge on this website and in this country. If you don't believe that cops just might let Whites get away with ignoring their orders, and threatening to kill the cop, and picking up a gun sitting on the car seat and fleeing all without being tased or shot



You suspect and know in your heart this would have gone differently if that driver were Black.

This was sort of the reverse of the OJ trial...

Do yourself a favor and research Tony Timpa...

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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agree. and now, when this 'story' plays out and loses Media interest - it will be 'NEXT!!!' and the next one (if it fits their narrative) will be exploited.
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ALREADY STARTED. NEXT is in the news. Get your plane ticket Benjamin Crump and activists...

Columbus, Ohio, police release bodycam footage of officer fatally shooting Black teen

Columbus police shooting: Bodycam footage released as protests develop
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[Roron123]

The appeal will show final decision!

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Swoop

This was sort of the reverse of the OJ trial...

Do yourself a favor and research Tony Timpa...

I know about Timpa, you have mentioned his case many many times. For those that don't know, in Texas about 5 years ago the cops were called by the victim himself asking for help. They arrived to a situation where a severely disturbed schizophrenic white man was encountered. He was already cuffed and prone on the grass by store security. The cops restrained him on the ground for several minutes mocking him and making jokes about his mental illness of which they were very aware. He stopped breathing and died, with cocaine in his system.

The cops were indicted by the grand jury but the local prosecutor refused to go to trial when the coroner refused to state that the cause of death was the police action. Maybe this is one example you can continue to cite, but it is not the same, and has nothing to do with OJ. I will concede that in the chart of persons that cops are likely to abuse people with severe mental health problems are right up there with Black people. This is why there is a push by many to have some police actions be taken over by mental health experts with cops only as back up. If a social worker had been dispatched to Mr Timba he would almost certainly be alive.