[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So - here's some really cool info that you never learned:

There exist people in this world who are infertile. For whatever reason - a birth defect, injury, illness, drug/alcohol abuse, they are not capable of fertilizing an egg or carrying a child.

And yet - they are still capable of feeling romantic and even sexual love toward other people. Love has nothing, zilch, nada to do with reproduction. Most animals in the animal world don't care about love, when it's time to reproduce. Loving the person whose sperm/uterus is fertile for reproducing with them is awesome, but it's totally not necessary. Just ask any man with a low sperm count, whose wife gets pregnant from sperm harvested at a sperm bank.

And here's some really cool info that you must not have learned...

Most everything you mentioned is an abnormality...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I had Thanksgiving with the Oakland Chorus back around 1984 while dating one of its members. She was an African -American who was part of the Oakland Chorus. We are the only straight people there but they seemed like very good and talented people. This is Oakland, CA. She was a fellow worker at Information Access Company which made a lot of indexing platforms for libraries. They also had various gay/lesbian workers.

Completely irrelevant, but whatever...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Caymus

...and who appointed Target to decide what is an allowed attitude?

Probably the same people who appointed you. No one needs to be appointed to decide what someone else is going to market, or not market. If you don't like it, don't buy the clothes, don't wear them. You get to decide. And they get to decide whether or not they'll sell them.

That's one of the great things about America, home of the Free Market, and commerce that isn't owned and operated by the government. That's what a Republic is all about. And being in the Free State of Florida, you should be especially appreciative of the fact that Target has the Freedom to sell these things - or lose money trying, or choosing not to sell them.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Probably the same people who appointed you. No one needs to be appointed to decide what someone else is going to market, or not market. If you don't like it, don't buy the clothes, don't wear them. You get to decide. And they get to decide whether or not they'll sell them.

That's one of the great things about America, home of the Free Market, and commerce that isn't owned and operated by the government. That's what a Republic is all about. And being in the Free State of Florida, you should be especially appreciative of the fact that Target has the Freedom to sell these things - or lose money trying, or choosing not to sell them.

The problem is we as parents have a duty to raise our children to be responsible adults and protect them from things that are bad on so many levels.

We normally buy a lot of things at Target not anymore.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

The problem is we as parents have a duty to raise our children to be responsible adults and protect them from things that are bad on so many levels.

We normally buy a lot of things at Target not anymore.

Do you keep them out of the kitchen to make sure they don't touch the stove? Do you keep them inside to make sure no one shoots them? Do you homeschool your children? Do you never allow them anywhere near plastic bags, to prevent them from accidentally suffocating after inhaling some of the plastic? Do you not allow them to ever eat peanuts, strawberries, or chocolate, to prevent ever having the risk of them being allergic?

I'd prefer to have children who are raised with knowledge and understanding and accepting that other people are different. And then when they become adults they can make their own informed choices. I would feel horrible for any child who is brought up not being exposed to "differences" and not being permitted to even consider tolerance toward other. That sounds like abuse to me. When they're out in the real world, assuming mommy and daddy allow them out of the house when they're adults and legally allowed to make their own decisions, they won't know what to do when something they're taught to hate ends up being their boss at work. They will have been taught to fear, and hate. That's very sad. Pathetic even.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Do you keep them out of the kitchen to make sure they don't touch the stove? Do you keep them inside to make sure no one shoots them? Do you homeschool your children? Do you never allow them anywhere near plastic bags, to prevent them from accidentally suffocating after inhaling some of the plastic? Do you not allow them to ever eat peanuts, strawberries, or chocolate, to prevent ever having the risk of them being allergic?

I'd prefer to have children who are raised with knowledge and understanding and accepting that other people are different. And then when they become adults they can make their own informed choices. I would feel horrible for any child who is brought up not being exposed to "differences" and not being permitted to even consider tolerance toward other. That sounds like abuse to me. When they're out in the real world, assuming mommy and daddy allow them out of the house when they're adults and legally allowed to make their own decisions, they won't know what to do when something they're taught to hate ends up being their boss at work. They will have been taught to fear, and hate. That's very sad. Pathetic even.

You very obviously don’t have kids

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

You very obviously don’t have kids

I WAS a kid. I'm qualified to know what kids need, having been one myself.

[Taltarzac725]

16 Common Logical Fallacies and How to Spot Them

You will see these a lot here in Talk of the Villages. I may do one once in a while too.

[Woodbear]

Target deserves everything they are getting. They have donated $2.1 million to LGBTQ group that pushes school districts to allow children to secretly change gender. GLSEN is right up there with MBLA. Target gives annual donations to LGBTQ group that pushes woke policies on school districts | Daily Mail Online

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Caymus

...and who appointed Target to decide what is an allowed attitude?

The same individual that appointed you.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Do you keep them out of the kitchen to make sure they don't touch the stove? Do you keep them inside to make sure no one shoots them? Do you homeschool your children? Do you never allow them anywhere near plastic bags, to prevent them from accidentally suffocating after inhaling some of the plastic? Do you not allow them to ever eat peanuts, strawberries, or chocolate, to prevent ever having the risk of them being allergic?

I'd prefer to have children who are raised with knowledge and understanding and accepting that other people are different. And then when they become adults they can make their own informed choices. I would feel horrible for any child who is brought up not being exposed to "differences" and not being permitted to even consider tolerance toward other. That sounds like abuse to me. When they're out in the real world, assuming mommy and daddy allow them out of the house when they're adults and legally allowed to make their own decisions, they won't know what to do when something they're taught to hate ends up being their boss at work. They will have been taught to fear, and hate. That's very sad. Pathetic even.

Isn't that the point? Who are the customers, the children or the adults? If you are purchasing these ridiculous clothes for your child, then they are NOT making their own choices, right? Someone else is making the choice for them and THOSE folks should be responsible and not damaging to the children......which TARGET is doing by selling this trash. Pushing cross dressing or transgender is pushing mental illness.
Parents.....those of us that have children understand this.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Isn't that the point? Who are the customers, the children or the adults? If you are purchasing these ridiculous clothes for your child, then they are NOT making their own choices, right? Someone else is making the choice for them and THOSE folks should be responsible and not damaging to the children......which TARGET is doing by selling this trash. Pushing cross dressing or transgender is pushing mental illness.
Parents.....those of us that have children understand this.

It bears repeating: teaching kids about frogs isn't grooming them to be amphibians. Reading a book about Mozart won't transform your kid into a musician. Acknowledging that some kids have two dads isn't "pushing them into being gay". It's helping them learn about the world around them.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Do you keep them out of the kitchen to make sure they don't touch the stove? Do you keep them inside to make sure no one shoots them? Do you homeschool your children? Do you never allow them anywhere near plastic bags, to prevent them from accidentally suffocating after inhaling some of the plastic? Do you not allow them to ever eat peanuts, strawberries, or chocolate, to prevent ever having the risk of them being allergic?

I'd prefer to have children who are raised with knowledge and understanding and accepting that other people are different. And then when they become adults they can make their own informed choices. I would feel horrible for any child who is brought up not being exposed to "differences" and not being permitted to even consider tolerance toward other. That sounds like abuse to me. When they're out in the real world, assuming mommy and daddy allow them out of the house when they're adults and legally allowed to make their own decisions, they won't know what to do when something they're taught to hate ends up being their boss at work. They will have been taught to fear, and hate. That's very sad. Pathetic even.

Excellent. Thank you for the compassion and understanding. It's sickening reading some of the responses on this thread. The level of hate and vitriol is horrible, and misplaced.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by mickey100

It bears repeating: teaching kids about frogs isn't grooming them to be amphibians. Reading a book about Mozart won't transform your kid into a musician. Acknowledging that some kids have two dads isn't "pushing them into being gay". It's helping them learn about the world around them.

Teaching kids about abnormal gender behavior such as adults pretending to be female when they are in fact males is not damaging? Reading a book about musicians may not make a child a musician, but buying them a musical instrument may/MAY point them on the way. Target is not "acknowledging that some kids have two dads..." it's selling perverted clothes for children. That is NOT/NOT helping them learn about the world around them. But, it may teach them to pretend they are weird so that they are ostracized by other children. Target is NOT teaching kids about frogs, by the way.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I WAS a kid. I'm qualified to know what kids need, having been one myself.

I am a parent, so I am "qualified to know" how to parent, according to your form of correlation. Normally, parents "know" what children need more than the children. Children may want something, but do they really know what they need? They have not been in this world long enough to know what they need, therefore we have something called parenting. Those of us that have children, understand this.