What's with all the FOX "hate?"
I guess some folks are intimidated by opposing views, huh?
Don't worry, FOX has changed quite a bit from conservative to moderate. They even have the dreaded liberally minded folks and hire gays. Who da thought, huh?

Question: Who decides what is news and what is a "nothingburger?" Just asking for a friend. I woulda checked with google but I couldn't spell Google, or maybe my fingers on the keyboard just wouldn't function properly in my old age.

By the way, my gay cousin also believes that these drag queens are queer....:pepper2:

So much for the "most media are good people" claim, right?

When they have no argument, they blame FOX News!

Apparently, OBB...

Queer as in "strange, odd"?

I do find it strange/odd that they think it is so important to read to toddlers and kindergarten students... Why not nursing home residents?

Fox is entertainment and not news. And probably many people at Fox do not take anything on their news station very seriously.

Wrong! Watch it once in a while. I watch it once in a while. Especially, when the MSM doesn't cover something that I consider to be interesting news. Yes, they do have some commentary, but what news station doesn't? CNN? Nope! By the way, most of the news at FOX comes from the same origin as the rest of the networks, the AP and Reuters. Not that I get much of my news from TV networks. Most of my news is from news feeds on the Internet. But, if I was going to recommend a TV network news, it would likely be FOX. I also enjoy SKY news, BBC news and a few others from time to time.

I like your posts when you talk about movies and books. Your defending transexuals and the gay agenda normalizing all kinds of creepy behavior and criticizing fox over all they put out not so much.

I am not normalizing transexuals. They are a very small number of the population but get all kinds of press. Usually from the far right. I just don't agree with making people targets of hate because they do not like how these people feel about their bodies.

Because they would be laughed at? Just a guess.

I can understand why females might wish to dress like a guy, but a guy dress like a female? I have seen how long it takes for women to put on makeup. Why would a guy wish to do that? A dress? Not that many females wear dresses today. Not when they can wear pants suits. High heels? Other than hookers and formal dress, how many women wear them anymore? Hey, guys can be out the door with little notice. Shoot, today lots of guys get away without even shaving, and some find the rugged look appealing. I haven't been able to pull off the "rugged" look. My wife tells me to shave when she notices I went all day with yesterdays growth. But, different strokes for different folks, as the saying goes.

Personally, I think that they enjoy reading to little kids because they believe the children are too well mannered to laugh at them. Or maybe the children are too shocked and don't know how to react?

Lots of movies feature gay/lesbian people. They are many gay/lesbians in Hollywood.

How do you describe "mainstream" media sources that win Pulitizers for reporting fictional reports on stories like "Russiagate"?

Yep, the certainly do get attention. Isn't that their goal? That, and forcing acceptance on the majority opposition.

Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Complete nonsense. All news organizations have a hard news and an opinion side of the house. Fox's hard news side is better than most. Opinions on the opinion side of the houses vary. How do you not understand this?

This describes CNN, MSNBC and most of the mainstream media but not FOX which reports facts. BTW, MSM are the haters, not FOX.

I think you know that is not what I meant.

When these people try and convince children what they do is ok and normal I have to draw the line. When corporations try and tell us the same thing I will not accept that either.

Start watching a series on Netflix called Hollywood. Thinking it rings true and gays ran the movie business in large part.

The interesting is ratings keep going down for the cnn's and msnbc's but they continue on their merry way with their losses mounting.

Who is trying to tell you anything? They have their clothing needs too. And have some products now designed for them.

And parents can make up their own minds about what they want their children to see and how to explain various nothing burgers to them.

If you only checked their website recently Target did remove some merchandise from its stores and hence likely its website although I have not followed what and when as I could not stomach continuing to look at it. Some of it made we want to vomit, especially some of the children's' wear. I am not alone in that. Clearly, whatever target was selling elicited strong reactions from enough people to cause Target, one of the wokest of companies, to step back, at least a little.

Like Potter Stewart, "I know it when I see it." Movie Day at the Supreme Court or "I Know It When I See It": A History of the Definition of Obscenity - FindLaw.

FOX provides news based on facts; MSM such as CNN and MSNBC air fake news and are just brainwashing entities and propaganda organs.

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This is a post with which I fully agree!

Which expectations of decency? As a Jewish woman, "decency" means both men AND women covering themselves modestly. Long sleeves, no shorts, women don't wear pants at all, dresses and skirts only. Men wear a yarmulke and married women wear wigs or scarves that cover their hair (or shaved scalps). Men don't touch women at all in public, married couples must not sleep in the same bed or touch for the window of time that a woman enters and exits her menstrual cycle.

What's the matter - that's too much to expect? According to whom? Who died and made you boss of all things decent?

Meanwhile back in modern non-Chassidic America - gays and lesbians exist. So do transgenders, non-binaries, and straight males and females who are into kinky sexual fetishes that have nothing to do with gender or sexual identity. Men have been wearing gowns and robes since before Rome was built, and Shakespeare plays were performed by men who played both male AND female parts, because women weren't permitted to perform in plays at the time. So there were lots of men in drag. Some of them were gay. Most of them were straight.

What's "decent" to you might be "stupid" to me. What's decent to me might be ungodly to you. But - I don't believe in your god, so I don't really care what you think is ungodly. It doesn't apply to me.

They get all kinds of press because they TRY to get all kinds of press...

They are probably THE most vocal identity group put there right now...

But sure, keep repeating your "targets of hate" mantra... I'm sure you believe it...

And what's your point?

Not when they show up in schools, they don't...

Oh wait, if they complain they are called "terrorists" by the DOJ...

Nicely put. And the central tenet of Christianity is love one's neighbor which is found many places in the recorded words of Jesus Christ. It does not matter what race, creed, or sexual orientation they have.

Gimme' a break... You don't believe a word of that. You're citing Hassidic Jews, of which you most certainly are not one.

All of which is completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

Then stop claiming you're a Jew... You may be one ethnically, but you're not one culturally, nor religiously...

Why is that small number of people with profound maladjustments getting so much attention ? Why the pop culture effort to normalize and seemingly encourage it. If you take issue with this sociological drift into phantasy you are assumed to be a bigot, a hater, someone motivated by malice , lacking in compassion . Apparently there are many people with their own issues who are comforted by this normalization

Reasoning looks like an attack on the person making the argument. And is over simplification of a complicated subject.
"Profound maladjustment". More spreading of hate towards a very small group of people. Who in some societies were easily just accepted by others.

Facts are not an attack, you make my case that to disagree there must be some negative aspect of one's character, Sexual reproduction has been around what millions if not billions of years, every living thing has two basic imperatives survive and reproduce , what ever confusion about what your biology is works against your reproductive success, the genetic difference make for profound and pervasive differences, physically, physiologically, as well as mentally, where is my error in fact or logic?

You should research homosexuality in Ancient Greece. It was the norm. And cross dressing is found in many cultures and not seen as aberrant.

Yes, and Adam and Eve ran around naked until they ate the forbidden fruit and then covered their privates with a fig leaf. Did you have a point? Some folks believe that just because someone does something idiotic, it's humorous or quaint. And some of us (the majority) feel that the same actions are obscene and nasty, abnormal and mentally disturbed, etc.

No, it was not the "norm" in Greece. The elite got away with it, but the majority did not find it the "norm." Perhaps there are SOME cultures that accept cross dressing as not being "aberrant" but MOST cultures do find it abnormal. Some cultures cut the hand off of thieves, but we don't. Some cultures find it an insult to sit with your legs crossed and the bottom of your shoe facing them. To get to the point, American majority believes in certain standards and we care enough for our children that we attempt to protect them from those deviants that we deem dangerous. I consider abnormal mental health to be a threat to children's minds that are not fully developed yet.

Wrong. How ancient Greeks viewed pederasty and homosexuality - Big Think

You must have me confused with someone else, this has nothing to do with my post

"The most widespread and socially significant form of same-sex sexual relations in ancient Greece amongst elite circles was between adult men and pubescent or adolescent boys, known as pederasty"

"Pederasty or paederasty is a sexual relationship between an adult man and a boy. "

I guess the next phase will be justifying this abnormal behavior using "ancient Greece" as our standard? After all, we are speaking of children being exposed to abnormal sexual confusion, are we not? At least, that is what the post above seems to allude to.

No. A lot of love affairs having nothing to do with reproduction. Especially those involving lovers of the same sex. Thus, homosexuality in Ancient Greece or many other places.

So was gladiator fighting and persecutions should we tell kindergarteners that’s ok too? I have no problem with LGBTQ persons. I have a problem with them shoving it in my face and wanting to discuss it in school. Why should we have respect for them when they have no respect for us?

You keep ignoring the Man/Boy aspect of ancient Greece homosexuality, which was the rule, not the exception...

Are you in favor of that? A simple yes or no will suffice...

[QUOTE=Taltarzac725;2221809]No. A lot of love affairs having nothing to do with reproduction. Especially those involving lovers of the same sex. Thus, homosexuality in Ancient Greece or many other places.[/QUOT

As for ancient Greece women were not considered full citizens, pretty much property, slavery was never thought of as anything but natural