The Minneapolis police with be exonerated of wrongdoing in the George Floyd case once all facts are brought to light, in calmer times, during their trial.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by John41

The Minneapolis police with be exonerated of wrongdoing in the George Floyd case once all facts are brought to light, in calmer times, during their trial.

Why do you think that?

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by John41

The Minneapolis police with be exonerated of wrongdoing in the George Floyd case once all facts are brought to light, in calmer times, during their trial.

You may be correct. If I were on the jury, I could only convict the police officers if the prosecutor could prove that they knew their actions would cause death. When a doctor makes a mistake and kills someone, they are almost never charged with a crime. I see this as a similar situation.

[shut the front door]

Not if the prosecutor gets the jury he wants.
And if they do get found not guilty, these riots the last 6 weeks will look like a tea party.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by John41

The Minneapolis police with be exonerated of wrongdoing in the George Floyd case once all facts are brought to light, in calmer times, during their trial.

I can see that happening; just think what the rioting will be like after that.....

BLM doesn’t believe in the justice system.

[ureout]

Originally Posted by John41

The Minneapolis police with be exonerated of wrongdoing in the George Floyd case once all facts are brought to light, in calmer times, during their trial.

I don't care how calm the times are or what George Floyd had done in the past ... Derek Chauvin is a bad cop... who the hell kneels on someones kneck for 8 minutes when they have the person handcuffed and under control ... he belongs in jail for the rest of his life IMO

[DeanFL]

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If/whenever that DOES happen, all hell will break loose - countrywide. Remember Ridney King trial in L.A.??? This would make THAT look like child's play...


1992 Los Angeles riots
Apr 29, 1992 – May 4, 1992
Description
DescriptionThe 1992 Los Angeles riots, sometimes called the 1992 Los Angeles uprising, were a series of riots and civil disturbances that occurred in Los Angeles County in April and May 1992. Wikipedia
Dates: Apr 29, 1992 – May 4, 1992
Arrested: 12,111
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
Total number of deaths: 63
Injuries: 2,383
Methods: Looting, Assault, Arson, Protest, Property damage, Murder, Riot


The 1992 Los Angeles riots, sometimes called the 1992 Los Angeles uprising,[4][5] were a series of riots and civil disturbances that occurred in Los Angeles County in April and May 1992. Unrest began in South Central Los Angeles on April 29, after a trial jury acquitted four officers of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) for usage of excessive force in the arrest and beating of Rodney King, which had been videotaped and widely viewed in TV broadcasts.

The rioting took place in several areas in the Los Angeles metropolitan area, as thousands of people rioted over a six-day period following the announcement of the verdict. Widespread looting, assault, and arson occurred during the riots, which local police forces had difficulty to control due to lack of personnel and resources. The situation in the Los Angeles area was only resolved after the California National Guard, the United States military, and several federal law enforcement agencies were deployed to assist in ending the violence and unrest.

By the time the riots ended, 63 people had been killed,[6] 2,383 had been injured, more than 12,000 had been arrested, and estimates of property damage were over $1 billion, much of which disproportionately affected Koreatown, where the bulk of rioting occurred. LAPD Chief of Police Daryl Gates, who had already announced his resignation by the time of the riots, was attributed with much of the blame for failure to de-escalate the situation and overall mismanagement
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[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ureout

I don't care how calm the times are or what George Floyd had done in the past ... Derek Chauvin is a bad cop... who the hell kneels on someones kneck for 8 minutes when they have the person handcuffed and under control ... he belongs in jail for the rest of his life IMO

George Floyd would still be alive to pass counterfeit bills if his mother would have ingrained in him like mine did me; If the teacher says it, do it, If the bible says it, do it, if me or your dad say it, do it and if a cop says stop, stop.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by ureout

I don't care how calm the times are or what George Floyd had done in the past ... Derek Chauvin is a bad cop... who the hell kneels on someones kneck for 8 minutes when they have the person handcuffed and under control ... he belongs in jail for the rest of his life IMO

I couldn't agree more.

As for the all white jury (after a venue change), that acquitted the 4 white cops that beat Rodney King as we all saw the video of them doing it and without a doubt of them being guilty, who can say with a straight face that white privilege doesn't exist? The rioting, death, destruction and looting should not have happened however and no one should advocate such, even in the face of such an obvious miscarriage of justice. OJ Simpson should have been put in prison for life for his vicious murders, but because the King verdict was such an atrocity of justice, he got away with it as payback for King. That so many don't see anything wrong with what Chauvin did, shows how little we've improved as a nation when it comes to how we view blacks in our society. If there is any question to that fact, a person only needs to read the constant threads and posts on this site to see the same attitude.

Having scoured all of the threads and posts since this incident, there's one thing I haven't seen a single person say. That being how they think their life would have been easier in general and they would have had a better chance, or an easier time, of being successful, if only they had been born with black skin.

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

George Floyd would still be alive to pass counterfeit bills if his mother would have ingrained in him like mine did me; If the teacher says it, do it, If the bible says it, do it, if me or your dad say it, do it and if a cop says stop, stop.

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Yes, and GG (other-feet type of thing) IF the (unbelievably STUPID MN officer) did NOT (for whatever reason) kneel on GFs neck (at all) and for SO long. GF would still be alive.

But honestly, the way this country is becoming so ravaged politically, if THAT spark didn't ignite matters - yet another one would have. AND... wait until the next one...
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[James Buckert]

I don’t think it was Floyd’s fault that a cop killed him. For example, if I get pulled over for speeding I don’t expect a cop to kill me, even though my mama said not to speed.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by tvbound

I couldn't agree more.

As for the all white jury (after a venue change), that acquitted the 4 white cops that beat Rodney King as we all saw the video of them doing it and without a doubt of them being guilty, who can say with a straight face that white privilege doesn't exist? The rioting, death, destruction and looting should not have happened however and no one should advocate such, even in the face of such an obvious miscarriage of justice. OJ Simpson should have been put in prison for life for his vicious murders, but because the King verdict was such an atrocity of justice, he got away with it as payback for King. That so many don't see anything wrong with what Chauvin did, shows how little we've improved as a nation when it comes to how we view blacks in our society. If there is any question to that fact, a person only needs to read the constant threads and posts on this site to see the same attitude.

Having scoured all of the threads and posts since this incident, there's one thing I haven't seen a single person say. That being how they think their life would have been easier in general and they would have had a better chance, or an easier time, of being successful, if only they had been born with black skin.

Almost all of the people on here think the cop is guilty based on what we saw.

One of these days blm will find someone with a clean record to make a hero out of.

[jacksonbrown]

g00gle "george floyd and fentanyl", 618,000 results, take your pick.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Having scoured all of the threads and posts since this incident, there's one thing I haven't seen a single person say. That being how they think their life would have been easier in general and they would have had a better chance, or an easier time, of being successful, if only they had been born with black skin.

Because it's a BS hypothetical question, as are all hypothetical questions. Hypothetical questions only yield hypothetical answers.
Hypothetically speaking of course.

Steve

Originally Posted by John41

The Minneapolis police with be exonerated of wrongdoing in the George Floyd case once all facts are brought to light, in calmer times, during their trial.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Why do you think that?

1. kneeling on an offenders neck is permissible by law in Minneapolis to incapacitate him in a similar way the choke hold was used. Unfortunately there is no precise time limit to achieve the objective and like the choke hold death can occur., but rarely.

2. George Floyd had a history of violence and was high on meth at the time of his arrest. This can lead to irrational behavior and is especially problematic for the police officers safety.

3. George Floyd twice resisted arrest. Office Chauvin talked respectfully to Mr. Floyd and offered an option of two ways to be arrested and taken to jail. Mr. Floyd was a three time loser and faced life if arrested . This might have been part of his refusal to follow police instructions.

4. Courts recognize the judgements police must make on the spot and intent to harm will have to be proven.

The arrested policemen are probably safer in jail than out on bail.