[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by FloridaGator

Read the facts and not just the headlines. Justice Roberts basically said he doesn’t disagree with the intent, but the president just doesn’t have the authority to do it.

Correct, it needed to be done by an act of Congress, like the PPP loan forgiveness act. Apples and oranges.

[scooterstang]

i loved the courts decision, and it was the right one! These kids nowdays are just looking for handouts it seems. Both my daughters have loans that I have helped with and they both still have small balances to pay. Instead of taking their money and time to protest, they should have been working to pay their loans. Sorry freeloaders because now you have to take responsibility for your choices.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by msirianni

What about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" isn't that discriminating against the shirtless and shoeless?

Your eating at the wrong place : )

[Freeda]

Agree! I think you should pay for your own mortgage, college loans, food and cell phones.

This isn't because
I'm a conservative;.
It's because l'm an adult.

[MrFlorida]

I paid mine, you pay yours....but watch them try all kinds of work arounds....not a fan of our leaders right now.

[waterflower]

Wish the banks had to pay back their bail-in. Corporation should not be allowed the file bankruptcy. Mortgage companies have to prove they have the money they lend you. Audit the federal reserve (not federal). Stop printing FIAT money. Home school your kids.

[Dahabs]

Originally Posted by Sabella

Legislating and budgeting are the jobs of Congress and not a power the president has . The supreme court case was about the separation of powers in our government. Maybe someone should inform those three females on the Supreme Court and tell them to stop trying to legislate from the bench. We also had a win for freedom of speech. Praise the Lord..

Maybe Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch need to be informed as well.

[airstreamingypsy]

Hmmm, the corrupt judge Thomas benefitted from the same thing he just denied others. Affirmative actions wasn't about admitting unqualified black kids, it was about qualified kids getting accepted in spite of systemic racism. Unqualified admissions are about legacy admissions, like how Kavanaugh got into Yale.

[airstreamingypsy]

The corrupt judge Thomas, denied helping students getting help with their loans, yet he secretly took $150,000.00 in tuition payments from rightwing billionaire Harlan Crow.

[Johnsocat]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

You think they will actually begin "workarounds" ? Our Secretary of Education didn't wait 6 full hours to hit all the major networks with, "DO NOT be discouraged, we only chose the Heroes Act because it appeared to be the FASTEST way around, but we will immediately begin to examine the higher education act for a pathway (that was his double speak for meaning "loopholes". Frankly I think we need to put Machiavelli back on the mandatory reading list in schools, public schools, so even those who do not go on to higher education ARE "educated" in the ways of deception: how to appear to be fighting for a cause that will benefit a very large voting contingency, while at the same time, knowing it won't pass muster (or the U.S. Constitution if that matters ?) and it's not important anyway, it's the illusion of "fighting" for a benefit during the campaign season of a major election. What "if", what if books like Machiavelli's The Prince, Orwell's Animal Farm, Sun Tau's The Art of War, were not only read during the 12 years of FPE, but actually "taught", with discussion and illumination of the lessons contained in those books ? For that matter, what would our country be like if we did something as radical as make 12 years of free public education mandatory ? Not as it is today, but with a classical education in the Greek sense, reading, mathematics, science, philosophy,literature, civics and even history ! What if basic reading and writing were a requirement ? What if students were not permitted to leave school until literate ? Would any of this at least help to "fundamentally transform" our country ? If everyone studied The Opium Wars in public schools, would they at least be able to understand how the Chinese culture, thousands of years of being an "advanced" culture, would never forget and never forgive the devastating tragedy of opium addiction the western world introduced. Would it help us better understand what is going on today ? Yes, actual education may not be able to solve all our problems, but it would certainly be worth a try ! We've got nothing to loose by educating our youth ! What if... we even ended up with fewer homeless ? Fewer addicts ? Fewer people who rejected the very idea of personal responsibility for such things as home loans, education loans, auto loans, etc. There is a great deal of "buzz" out there about a plethora of "new think" books in our schools to teach the new "science", but there are some long forgotten books that need to go BACK into the curriculum. Many of them would enlighten students in such a way that they would recognize when they were being "gas lighted" only to obtain their votes ! Maybe "we the people" don't WANT that to happen ? ? Educated population, I don't know, it could be "dangerous" !

Agree, a Classical education will help bring back our Citizen's the ability to reason and think critically.

[manaboutown]

Best and most honest court we have had in a long time for the most part. There are exceptions, especially the totally incompetent Jackson.

[Captainpd]

CNN=Clinton News Network

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I think you mean it creates a freedom to discriminate. But in reality, we'll have to see who is allowed to post the signs that say, "____ not welcome here."

I think it means freedom of speech. Colorado wants to force people to agree with their view of gay marriage. As stated in the decision,

Colorado seeks to compel this speech in order to “excis[e] certain ideas or viewpoints from the public dialogue.” Indeed, the Tenth Circuit recognized that the coercive “[e]liminati[on]” of dissenting ideas about marriage constitutes Colorado’s “very purpose” in seeking to apply its law to Ms. Smith.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

I think it means freedom of speech. Colorado wants to force people to agree with their view of gay marriage. As stated in the decision,

Colorado seeks to compel this speech in order to “excis[e] certain ideas or viewpoints from the public dialogue.” Indeed, the Tenth Circuit recognized that the coercive “[e]liminati[on]” of dissenting ideas about marriage constitutes Colorado’s “very purpose” in seeking to apply its law to Ms. Smith.

Colorado wasn't taking away anyone's free speech. Smith was always free to say she didn't approve of same-sex marriage. What Colorado law did was tell Smith she could not discriminate against gay people in the marketplace. She could say, "I don't agree with you," or she could say, "I don't like you," and she could also choose to not give her best effort on a project. What she could not do was say, "I do not accept gays as customers," as that is illegal discrimination.

What the Supreme Court essentially decided is that if you want to discriminate against a protected class then what you need to do is find a way to incorporate the phrase "free speech."

We really can't go much further with this since this was all a hypothetical case anyway. Smith did not (and does not as far as I know) design wedding websites. No one asked her to and in particular, no same-sex couple asked her to. It is reported that in her complaint she named an individual who is already married to someone who is clearly not the same sex but I haven't read the complaint to confirm that. This case is all about would-have, could-have, or should--have but with no basis in any actual event.

[DennisDee]

Root cause is excessively high college cost. There would be less or no issue if college was priced fairly. Elites (politicians) protect this scheme. Think about it!