[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Only the first of the three links gave any indication of the attackers' ages. The first was the video, and the woman looked to be in her 20's or 30's. That would mean hm - oh yeah. The age of your grandchildren. So - participating trophies and time-outs provided by people the age of your kids. Which one of you taught your kids that it was acceptable to provide time-outs and participation trophies to their kids? Cause the idea didn't come out of a zebra's butt.

Meanwhile, we don't know the ages of the other two. If one of them was in their 70's, would you accuse fox of reporting age discriminatory fake news? Or would you just accept that some people are screwed up in the head?

Are you so sure that participation trophies and time outs are the reason why some people act out? Are you really and truly sure? How many folks here have a relative over the age of 40, who has either been in jail, been in a fight, gotten a ticket for reckless driving, been accused of a crime, participated in any kind of protest at all, drove drunk (whether or not they got caught)...

How many of you even KNOW if you have a relative who fits the above criteria?

Believe me - it's not the result of participation trophies and time outs. I never got either and I did my share of acting out when I was young. For me it was a matter of "you and what army are going to STOP me from doing whatever I want?" Time out? Pfft. There's no lock on my door. Participation trophy? Screw that, I want to WIN. If I can't win, then I don't deserve a trophy. We used to get those in bowling league, I thought it was a huge waste of league money.

Re: Zebra butts. As a devoted animal lover and watcher, I am very distressed by your "flippant" dismissal of the beauty of the butts. I have gotten some of my best ideas and inspiration by staring for long periods of time at zebra butts. It is mesmerizing and transformative - like doing long yoga poses - or chanting - meditation. I stare and let my mind drift. As the zebra butt stripes start to move and form moving or sometimes straight line patterns, the lines of stripes merge to inspire my newest ideas. It is an ancient African ritual for mental cleansing.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Art Gariepy

That’s the point. You “have to wear a mask”— it doesn’t say where.

That is a bull $hit excuse and I'm not buying it. It only shows obstinence when someone does not cover the nose and the mouth when wearing a mask. Agree with poster above.....it is a way to thumb your nose at the required action.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Chitown

Just looked it up. As of this yesterday’s close, 9-14-20, total Florida cases of Caronavirus is 666,000, total deaths in Florida blamed by coronavirus 12,600. THAT IS 1.8% death rate. I am so over the fear of contracting this virus. If people are waiting for this virus to be eradicated from existence, it’s never gonna happen vaccine or no vaccine. Dangerous viruses from many many years ago are still killing people today. The SARS virus and swine flu are still killing people today and it’s been 12 years. Life is a risk. Wash your hands often, if you feel your health makes you at a much higher risk of death then wear your mask if that makes you feel secure. As far as me, I’m going on with my life just like before the virus. Im confident that even if I was to contract it that I will be one of the 98.2% who survive. P . S. Please don’t be taken in by those who say “ there is a possibility that if you contract this virus and recover you may have long term lung or heart issues. That is a way to make you conform to keep you in fear to the way they want you to react. They have no clue for Gods sake the virus is 6 mos old. You could say that about any virus or flu.

Okay so here's my takeaway on your opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong.

1 If it was your own spouse, child, sibling, or parent who was one of the 1.8 who died, you'd be okay with it since it's only 1.8%.

2. If 75% of all the people who tested positive, had serious symptoms that required hospitalization and possibly even intubation and ventillation but lived to tell about it, you'd be okay with that.

3. If 50% of all the people who tested positive and experienced serious symptoms, could not afford to pay the hospital bills resulting from their illness, you'd be okay with that.

4. If you got sick with COVID, had to be hospitalized and isolated from your entire family for 2 weeks, had to be put on a ventillator with a tube running down your throat, racked up hundreds of thousand of dollars in bills that Medicare only covered a fraction of, leaving you footing the rest of the bill, you'd be okay with that.

5. If you were sick as in #4, and it turned out you are the direct cause of your best friend getting sick and dying from it, you'd be okay with that since they're only one of the 1.8% of people who die from it anyway.

That's what I get from your post. Any time someone says "the death rate is "only" 1.8%" - that is what I will get from their claim.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Boomer

In Ohio Dr. Amy Acton, the state’s director of health, resigned after she and her family were threatened by people showing up at her house, waving flags and carrying assault weapons and signs saying, “No violence — yet.”

Dr. Acton had dared to encourage mask-wearing — but gave up after being terrorized by pseudo-patriots.

Another woman doctor was recently appointed to take Dr. Acton’s place. She withdrew before she even started the job — cited “personal reasons” — a.k.a. threats.

I am in total shock that people I know can support this kind of America.

Do they even know these things are happening? If so, how can they support it — by what they say — or with sinister, tacit approval? (shudder)

All across the country good, qualified public health professionals are quitting their jobs. It is because of violent threats against their family. This is the kind of thing that will drive the US to become a 3rd world country.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by skarra

You have it right.

The stores are free to mandate the wearing of masks, just like customers having to wear a shirt or shoes. Non-mask wearers are free to go to another store if they don't like that. But wearing a mask seems like the most community-spirited and neighborly thing one can do.

I suspect the woman in that first video at KFC was on some sort of drug, or has mental problems. If she's carrying a blanket around with her, she's probably homeless and most likely is crazy. You have to feel sorry in that we don't have enough places for her to go to get the treatment she needs.

It all began in the early 80s when the budgets for these mental hospitals were cut at the Federal level. They then began closing. I too feel sorry for the lady jumping on the KFC counter AND the workers who she could have hurt. They need "danger pay"!

[Mardarlowe]

Cry me a large river.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

All across the country good, qualified public health professionals are quitting their jobs. It is because of violent threats against their family. This is the kind of thing that will drive the US to become a 3rd world country.

And, it will be a very short drive.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by orangeblossombaby

see the bolded underlined thing in the quote you quoted? Life, liberty. The government cannot deprive anyone of either of those things without due process.

And so - if the general population is at risk of losing their life (to the virus) or liberty (to having to be isolated as a result of the virus) then - it is their duty to do what they can to prevent that risk of loss.

Mandating masks can reduce that risk of loss.

my life and liberty is more important than your freedom to uncover your face.

nope

[Phil_Linda]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Not condoning these actions but I, for one, am sick and tired of the misinformation out there about the real cause of deaths, numbers of infections, false test results, masks don’t work, masks are required, etc. Never before in history have such radical steps been taken especially when such a minute percentage of deaths have occurred in relation to the entire population and tge draconian measures being taken. Then, proven treatments like Hydroxochloroquine are wittheld by the CDC and others. Never before has such a pandemic been politicized so that people don't know what or who to believe so they get very frustrated.

donassaid,
Just a quick question. Would you still say that it is just a minute number of people if one of those was someone you loved? So easy to brush off when it is affecting others. By the way Hydroxochloroquine has NOT been approved by anyone except the ones that listen to fake news on Fox.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It all began in the early 80s when the budgets for these mental hospitals were cut at the Federal level. They then began closing. I too feel sorry for the lady jumping on the KFC counter AND the workers who she could have hurt. They need "danger pay"!

She's lucky someone didn't knock her back off the counter

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Are you okay with no shoes no shirt no service, or do you go into restaurants without your shoes and shirt? What about seatbelts, do you use them? What about speed limits, they aren't for you? There is something wrong with not wearing one, we are all in this together as a society, and you are endangering others when you don't wear one. I bet you got participation trophies.

Seatbelts and speeding are LAWS. Wearing a mask is not a law, but a courtesy to others. IMO, a business has no requirement to provide service to those that do not follow posted attire requirements.

[ficoguy]

And "safe rooms"

[Art cov]

Originally Posted by Phil_Linda

donassaid,
Just a quick question. Would you still say that it is just a minute number of people if one of those was someone you loved? So easy to brush off when it is affecting others. By the way Hydroxochloroquine has NOT been approved by anyone except the ones that listen to fake news on Fox.

A friend of mine got terribly sick, yes Covid! after many days in bed flat on his back and feeling horrible. Family and friends thought they may loose him. A 73 yr old man that’s normally working, and full of life. He wanted to get Hydroxochloroquine, but doctors would not prescribe. He got some from South America. Took it and in 2 days felt like a new man! I don’t know anything about that medicine but I do know the man and know that he received a healing! He is in great shape. Working n going about life. I’m not arguing any position, but that stuff worked on my friend. Many didn’t think that he was going to make it. That hydro stuff worked is all I know.

[Linnberg]

I am
Confused about what the law is regarding service people. Most i
Of the servers a s bartenders at Palmer do NOT wear masks. When I ask aBout it, they all reply that their management does not require it. They said they only put one one of requested bu customer. The hostess gave me a long lecture why it is. Hoax anyway.
Is there a legal requirement still in FL that requires workers in restaurants to wear a mask?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Linnberg

I am
Confused about what the law is regarding service people. Most i
Of the servers a s bartenders at Palmer do NOT wear masks. When I ask aBout it, they all reply that their management does not require it. They said they only put one one of requested bu customer. The hostess gave me a long lecture why it is. Hoax anyway.
Is there a legal requirement still in FL that requires workers in restaurants to wear a mask?

That HOAX thing is getting old, and we may never know how dangerous it has been for people.

Every person in the universe knows it is not a hoax, yet we still hear that term.