[WesMan]

Originally Posted by Byte1

NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!

Great News, the fake news reporters lost this one!!!!

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I would be interested in knowing if the prosecutor always uses those highly aggressive tactics or was it only in this case? It looked to me that he was mostly responsible for the verdict, or at least would have been if I was on the jury.

We need to understand a prosecutor a defending attorney both go to law school to learn to argue both sides of the same issue depending on who or what is paying them.

In fact several in the course of a career have changed roles. This case was clearly a major national issue. We had the right to bear arms and race combined in this case. Plus the press another national issue taking sides.

As I predicted we now have RIOTS and an issue being used as an excuse to steal.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by RMHisle

Gofundme removed Kyle's fundraiser and refunded the monies donated.

There were other sources...

But it really bothers me that "GoFundMe" picks and chooses whom they deem suitable...

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

The "active shooter" narrative was a hail Mary pass, added by the prosecution, at the last minute... No one testified to that...

Really???

KENOSHA, Wis., Nov 8 (Reuters) - The only protester shot by Kyle Rittenhouse to survive testified on Monday that he believed the U.S. teenager was an "active shooter" and was trying to disarm Rittenhouse when a bullet from the teen's semi-automatic rifle severed part of his arm.

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by billethkid

The special interest groups will be there to make their position known....bricks, bottles, fire bombs in a space less than 1/4 the size of a football field.

The media will focus in tight and present it as a mass demonstration.....to which the politicians and special interest groups will pour as much fuel on it as possible.

The other 98.9% of us will be going about our business which most certainly will not be news worthy!!!

Correct!!!!!!!!!!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by meridian5850

And here is another person that paid no attention to this case and doesn't believe it was self-defense based on the words in your post. He wasn't there to play hero and the 3 people shot - in self-defense - all tried to attack him and all of them were criminals, one a pedophile convicted of raping 5 children. The world is a better place because Kyle successfully defended himself.

I can’t help but wonder if we are not seeing the forest for the trees here. Kyle Rittenhouse is one person. There are two dead people and one seriously wounded one as a result of what happened that night. So we focus on that—and by so doing, in my opinion, are completely missing the big picture here.

It has been said that in America, when the law won't, or can't, keep the peace, then the average citizen will step in and see to it that peace is kept. The focus on the Rittenhouse trial has been--rightfully--on Rittenhouse: what he did, and whether or not he had legal culpability for his actions. But we need to look beyond that, to the organization he was with, why they were there and focused on keeping the peace, and keeping the rioters away from private property. The reason is simple and yet profound: it happened because in August of 2020 Kenosha suffered through several days of rioting, arson and looting, and the authorities there at the time were either unable (or not allowed) to employ sufficient force to control the situation.

Kenosha was being patrolled the night of the Rittenhouse incident, not so much by the cops (who were not making much of a difference in controlling things), but by armed men making a visible presence. I guarantee we'd not have heard a word about it, had their presence alone been enough to keep the rioters at bay. But things got out of hand and people died. Regrettable, for a variety of reasons. But let's not overlook the intent, on both sides. Those armed men were there because they were not willing to see their city continue to suffer violence and vandalism. THAT is the real issue here.

It is far from new. NPR, on June 10 of this year in an article by Nate Hegyi, described a like incident in Missoula, Montana, regarding one of those George Floyd "protests". About 200 obviously armed citizens showed up at the rally. It didn't make the news because their appearance had the desired effect: things remained peaceful. As one of the armed men said, they were not there to squelch protests, but to ensure that it remained peaceful. Hard to see how anyone can argue with that.

It happened in the sleepy little Southern MN town where I lived before leaving Minnesota, about an hour from Ground Zero where the George Floyd riots had caused so much destruction. Word got out that a protest was to be held in our town the one of the days immediately following the George Floyd protests in the Twin Cities. Sure enough, several vanloads of protesters arrived early the next morning, waving signs and chanting slogans. But another group, not attached to the main group but affiliated with them, had planned on a smash-and-grab at a local store that sold guns. A lot of guns. Only the citizenry heard of it ahead of time, and when they arrived to do their mischief they found a parking lot full of obviously armed men. Those planning to do the smash-and-grab showed good sense and left immediately. The main body of protesters, in like fashion, recognized early on that the police were not the only people with guns ringing their demonstration, and so they kept things peaceful, staying in the area allotted to them by police. They were noisy and profane, but the kept it where it was supposed to be kept.

Again, this is a lot more common than we think. A group calling itself "Everytown Research and Policy" stated that "Between January 2020 and June 2021, there were more than 30,000 public demonstrations in the US. Of those, at least 560 demonstrations included the presence of an armed individual, other than law enforcement." I'm not sure where they got their numbers but I have no reason to doubt them. If anything though I think that the ratio is a lot closer than 30,000 to 560. We hear about what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse and the group he was part of. We don't hear about the ones where the mere presence of armed men was enough to keep the rioters in check, although in my estimation those incidents are equally newsworthy. "We Push For Peace", the group that Kyle Rittenhouse was a part of, that group in Missoula, Montana, and many more...they are out there, and they ARE making a difference—only, of course, the MSM never tells us about the ones that end peacefully.

The Rittenhouse trial is over. But the reasons it happened in the first place still exist. We need to stop fixating on one man, and start figuring out ways to prevent the causes. Because until we do, I guarantee that there will be many more Kyle Rittenhouses.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Pupiczech

he murdered two people. He should get the death penalty.

How someone says "I didn't watch the trial" without saying "I didn't watch the trial"...

[Cliff Fr]

IMO this is really the fault of the City of Kenosha. Rioting often produces these type of tragedy's. By failing to put down the trouble makers the City allowed this to happen.

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by pupiczech

he murdered two people. He should get the death penalty.

not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Proveone]

Originally Posted by John41

I agree with not guilty on all counts. Prosecutor needs to be sanctioned for violating defendants rights and pointing a gun at the jury. Watched a lot of the testimony rather than getting media bias. Great day for 2a.

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb! Seventeen year old, with illegal gun carry (someone else bought the gun for him), crossing State lines, killing unarmed people, and instigating conflict. If he were black/brown you would be "whistling" a different tune. Hope all the ViCTIMS sue the Hell out of him and the Kenosha police.

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by Proveone

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb! Seventeen year old, with illegal gun carry (someone else bought the gun for him), crossing State lines, killing unarmed people, and instigating conflict. If he were black/brown you would be "whistling" a different tune. Hope all the ViCTIMS sue the Hell out of him and the Kenosha police.

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[nn0wheremann]

Well intentioned 17 yo child who exercised poor judgement with sad results. He should have been handled as a juvenile, then we would not have had a spectacle, and he might have received the counseling he needs. Now he’s a hero with a target on his back. But he’ll get a movie deal out of it.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

IMO this is really the fault of the City of Kenosha. Rioting often produces these type of tragedy's. By failing to put down the trouble makers the City allowed this to happen.

The only "tragedy" here is the fact that it went to court. Intentionally or not, Rittenhouse did the world a favor by taking out the trash when law enforcement couldn't.

[Ele201]

Originally Posted by Byte1

NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!

I guess justice was served and Kyle was lawfully defending his own life. I wasn’t there, was not on the jury, but I respect the process and accept the verdict.

One thing I strongly disagree with are violent protests — of any kind. The constitution states that citizens have a right to Peaceful assembly. Nothing mentioned there about looting stores, tearing a placard from the hands of a protester you don’t agree with, or bringing Any type of weapon with you as you protest. So nowadays, when you take to the streets, you may be facing grave danger.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

Really???

KENOSHA, Wis., Nov 8 (Reuters) - The only protester shot by Kyle Rittenhouse to survive testified on Monday that he believed the U.S. teenager was an "active shooter" and was trying to disarm Rittenhouse when a bullet from the teen's semi-automatic rifle severed part of his arm.

He also testified that Rittenhouse lowered his weapon when he raised his hands and only shot him when he advanced and pointed the gun at Rittenhouse's head... So there's that...

That is then the prosecutor did his, now famous, "face palm"...

Gaige Grosskreutz Admits Rittenhouse Shot Him Because He Pointed a Gun at Him #RittenhouseTrial - YouTube



And here is the testimony of Mr Grosskruetz, regarding that he "inferred" there was an "active shooter"... He testified he only saw Rittenhouse shoot after he was on the ground and being attacked. Not very compelling...

Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Shooting survivor thought Rittenhouse "was an active shooter" - YouTube

Plus, there is ZERO video evidence (and there are multiple views) of Rittenhouse "racking" his weapon...