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Bucco 09-19-2020 01:29 PM

Sen. Lindsay Graham on March 10, 2016.....



““I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination.”
~Lindsey Graham
March 10, 2016”

MDLNB 09-19-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ruralgoddess (Post 1835196)
If McConnell meant what he said and forced through for Obama's pick, then he’s a hypocrite if he tries to push a nomination through so close to the election.


Didn't I hear someone say something like "elections have consequences"???

Bucco 09-19-2020 01:40 PM













“The principle is the same. Whether it’s before the election or after the election, the principle is the American people are choosing their next president, and their next president should pick this Supreme Court nominee.”


Sen. McConnell March 2016

graciegirl 09-19-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1835555)












“The principle is the same. Whether it’s before the election or after the election, the principle is the American people are choosing their next president, and their next president should pick this Supreme Court nominee.”


Sen. McConnell March 2016

Anyone who doesn't press an advantage if it is handed to you is stupid. And you know as well as I do that both sides would. Don't tell me lofty things. Use common sense.

MDLNB 09-19-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Veiragirl (Post 1835213)
That doesn't surprise me. Considering what an empathic and humble person he is.


"Humble" might be OK for a priest. I don't want a president that is "humble."

Bucco 09-19-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1835556)
Anyone who doesn't press an advantage if it is handed to you is stupid. And you know as well as I do that both sides would. Don't tell me lofty things. Use common sense.

Simply pointing out hypocrisy, and as an active GOP supporter at the time, without debating Garlands resume, I was embarrassed by McConnells action, and frankly do not recall such blatant political game playing ever. No discussion, no hearing, nothing for almost a year to simply not allow a legitimate confirmation chance.

Part of the trouble in the last hearings were that many are sore and mad about that, and that is something the GOP should be wary if....yes, hypocrisy is part of it.....saw it first hand many times in my career, never so blatant on such an important issue. Not even a wave to what is good for the country.

MDLNB 09-19-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1835349)
If McConnell hadn't refused to consider Obama's choice for SCOTUS at the time (Merrick Garland), hadn't even allowed it to be considered by the Senate at all - then Garland would've taken that vacancy, and RBG would've been able to retire knowing that a moderate judge was put into the other position.

That was her, suffering through sickness, in order to preserve the Republic. There is no personal ambition when you're SCOTUS. When you become USSCOTUS - you have won. Game over.


I guess that is one spin on it

Tblue 09-19-2020 02:11 PM

May she R.I.P. Is there going to be issues if the President nominates someone prior to the election? YES. If she had passed a year ago and the President put up names for nomination would there have been issues? YES. If she were to have passed a few months from now, the day after the election would there be issues? YES. Just my thoughts, but it seems like waiting or not waiting has problems, we need to move ahead.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-19-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1835579)
I guess that is one spin on it

You claimed her choices were because she's ambitious. I refuted that - because once you are SCOTUS, you have realized any career-related ambition you can possibly realize. That is the highest level in the game of politics. Appointed for life, there's no demotions, no firing, no forced retirement, and you along with your other fellow-life-appointees, call the shots. That is the end-game.

Ambition, at that point in your life, is 100% completely invalid and irrelevant. When you are as high as you can get, there is nothing left to be ambitious about, with regards to your career.

MDLNB 09-19-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1835587)
You claimed her choices were because she's ambitious. I refuted that - because once you are SCOTUS, you have realized any career-related ambition you can possibly realize. That is the highest level in the game of politics. Appointed for life, there's no demotions, no firing, no forced retirement, and you along with your other fellow-life-appointees, call the shots. That is the end-game.

Ambition, at that point in your life, is 100% completely invalid and irrelevant. When you are as high as you can get, there is nothing left to be ambitious about, with regards to your career.


I do not know which post you are responding to, but it wasn't mine.

Rapscallion St Croix 09-19-2020 02:54 PM

In theory, there are too many Republican senators, including McConnell, in vulnerable seats to chance a vote pre-election. If McSally loses her seat in the special election, the vote will take place before her opponent takes the seat, which he could do as early as Nov 30. No matter who wins the White House, Trump will nominate a new justice who will be confirmed if Grassley, Collins, Murkowski, and Graham vote party line. It could take decades to achieve anything resembling an ideological balance at SCOTUS.

coffeebean 09-19-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 8notes (Post 1835493)
So good thing she is dead? Wow, nice sentiment.

I take that comment to mean, "Good thing she is no longer suffering".

billethkid 09-19-2020 03:39 PM

May she rest in peace.

However it may take 4 1/2 years before there is a new president!

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-19-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1835590)
I do not know which post you are responding to, but it wasn't mine.

Sorry, I mixed posters. You said "that's one spin on it" and I mistakenly thought you were Ithos, who was the person I responded to in the first place.

Madelaine Amee 09-19-2020 03:50 PM

I have very strong feelings about this election, but there is really no point in letting it drive you crazy. When I get in bed and cannot clear my mind I just tell myself life has been going on for many years and it will continue without my mind worrying about it. Things always seem to work out in the end, although this may take a long time to get to the end.

jebartle 09-19-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1835199)
I think it will happen ... and fast. With the divisiveness in this country, and so many issues headed to the supremes, I think he will nominate and will get approved fast. Republicans still control the senate. Regardless of what Kavanaugh went through, they could do this in a day or two. Unprecedented? yes. Impossible? no.

Patience, grasshopper, 4 gop senators will not vote scotus nominee until AFTER election


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