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Old 02-18-2021, 09:34 AM
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Because you still have a 5% or greater chance of still carrying and shedding the virus and passing it on to others who haven't been vaccinated or had the virus and have an immunity. The vaccine does not stop you from getting the virus, it just stops you from getting sick and/or dying from it. You need to keep wearing it until everyone who wants one has been vaccinated or that there's proof of herd immunity.
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I had a nice, distanced chat with a lady while waiting in drive thru banking lanes at a local bank. We lamented the difficulty of being understood while wearing a mask. She was in a drive-thru bank lane...alone in her car...wearing a mask...talking to a bank employee via a video screen. She's had BOTH shots and was well past the two-week wait time. She said "you have to" continue wearing a mask. My question: what's the point of frantically finding where one can get a vaccine if we "have to" continue wearing a mask? I, for one, will NOT be wearing a mask once vaccinated and past the waiting period.
Re: covid 19
We are dealing with a new situation. The book is a new one being written now.
Answers are basically opinions. It is not big deal to wear a mask unless we choose to make it one. Far as being vaccinated and then not needing to wear a mask. First of all it is not proven that people who have had the vaccine cannot spread covid 19. Also,
would we find random stops to show your papers acceptable. Perhaps when you go to a store etc. It is just an easy solution to a messy problem.
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You're right, 2017-2018 was a horrible year for flu deaths in the US but the number was 61,000 in comparison to the almost 500,000 SO FAR in the US for Covid-19 deaths. NO comparison.

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I agree. That's why I don't stop at red lights, don't wear my seatbelt, I light up my cigarette wherever I damned well please, I cut in front of you in line (yeah, that's me, every single time), I cough out, why should I ruin my silk sleeved shirt when I can cough on YOUR shirt (or arm, woopsie!). If I need money, I just grab it from your pocket. If I need a place to sleep, I'll break into YOUR house, clock you over the head, and push you off the bed.

Because ain't no government gonna mandate MY every move, no sirree.
This is the USA 2021 FOLKS READ IT AND WEEP. i WILL DO NOTHING FOR MY COUNTRY
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You're right, 2017-2018 was a horrible year for flu deaths in the US but the number was 61,000 in comparison to the almost 500,000 SO FAR in the US for Covid-19 deaths. NO comparison.
Unfortunately, there is no comparison in how the cause of death is reported.

In 30+ years of practice, I never once signed a death certificate with "Influenza" listed as the cause, and neither did most doctors.

Now, there is a financial incentive to list COVID on the DC and on hospital bills.

So, I wonder how many fewer "COVID" deaths we would have if they were counted the way we traditionally count influenza deaths, and how many more influenza deaths if there were the same financial incentive for the influenza diagnosis. A hint of this lies in the almost ridiculous low number of influenza cases this year. (and NO, it's not because people are wearing a mask)
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Re: covid 19
We are dealing with a new situation. The book is a new one being written now.
Answers are basically opinions. It is not big deal to wear a mask unless we choose to make it one. Far as being vaccinated and then not needing to wear a mask. First of all it is not proven that people who have had the vaccine cannot spread covid 19. Also,
would we find random stops to show your papers acceptable.
Perhaps when you go to a store etc. It is just an easy solution to a messy problem.
As in Checkpoint Charlie?????? Maybe we can find some very old Gestapo officers hiding in Paraguay to man them, maybe some skinhead Nazis.. Heil!

Amazing how quickly some people want to give up their freedoms due paranoia
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Because you still have a 5% or greater chance of still carrying and shedding the virus and passing it on to others who haven't been vaccinated or had the virus and have an immunity. The vaccine does not stop you from getting the virus, it just stops you from getting sick and/or dying from it. You need to keep wearing it until everyone who wants one has been vaccinated or that there's proof of herd immunity.
That line just keeps getting repeated and repeated on TOTV. I've challenged those that are repeating it to name a source---and guess what---zero, nada, zippo. What the article that they are distorting actually said is that it is unknown whether the vaccine prevents the nose and throat from harboring the virus, so more study is needed.. BIG DIFFERENCE THERE
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But why wear a mask if you're alone in a car ANYTIME - or if you're speaking to a bank teller behind a full glass partition thru a speaker?
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But why wear a mask if you're alone in a car ANYTIME - or if you're speaking to a bank teller behind a full glass partition thru a speaker?
Paranoia. Terror. Ignorance. Sub-normal intelligence. Brainwashed by media.

Take your pick. Last time this question was posted there were a ton of lame excuses that all started with "I'm not afraid, but....." In reality, they are all afraid. And that's OK, do what you want to feel safe. But you are deluding yourself if you think wearing a mask in your car does anything to prevent COVID. And you are even more delusional if you are denying your fear.
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After vaccination, you can still carry the virus in you nasal passages to others. Masks must continue until a level of immunity is reached. She was wearing the mask to protect others.
Who the heck was she protecting if she's alone in her car with no one around her? At some point it just gets a little silly!
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Old 02-18-2021, 11:36 AM
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unless you cough, sneeze or spit while you talk a mask isn't necessary. And if you do sneeze, cough or spit while you talk do it into your sleeve.

I wear a mask when a business home requests it...otherwise I don't wear one.
I realize pointing out your statement is incorrect will do no good, but here goes anyway. Post #6 briefly explains the science behind wearing a mask. In addition, CDC, WHO and numerous other health organizations have documented cases of the virus being transmitted by talking, talking loudly and singing.
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I believe I will wear a mask at the market and other enclosed places. I’ve not only not gotten COVID but also haven’t had any colds, the flu.
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Unfortunately, there is no comparison in how the cause of death is reported.

In 30+ years of practice, I never once signed a death certificate with "Influenza" listed as the cause, and neither did most doctors.

Now, there is a financial incentive to list COVID on the DC and on hospital bills.

So, I wonder how many fewer "COVID" deaths we would have if they were counted the way we traditionally count influenza deaths, and how many more influenza deaths if there were the same financial incentive for the influenza diagnosis. A hint of this lies in the almost ridiculous low number of influenza cases this year. (and NO, it's not because people are wearing a mask)
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Unfortunately, there is no comparison in how the cause of death is reported.

In 30+ years of practice, I never once signed a death certificate with "Influenza" listed as the cause, and neither did most doctors.

Now, there is a financial incentive to list COVID on the DC and on hospital bills.

So, I wonder how many fewer "COVID" deaths we would have if they were counted the way we traditionally count influenza deaths, and how many more influenza deaths if there were the same financial incentive for the influenza diagnosis. A hint of this lies in the almost ridiculous low number of influenza cases this year. (and NO, it's not because people are wearing a mask)
What "financial incentive" are you speaking of and paid to who for what???
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