[davem4616]

Russia may be able to level the Ukrainian landscape by force, and replace the leaders with puppets, but Russia will never conquer the hearts of the people of Ukraine that have tasted freedom...

Someone down at City Fire said that Putin was intent on reestablishing the buffer between Russia and the NATO countries that he had with the pro-Russian government that had been in place in the Ukraine...the one that the West helped put the skids under
...I wasn't able to hear the rest of his story, our table was ready and we left the bar area

[Lottoguy]

I thought Stalin is in a glass case in Red Square? Or was that Walt Disney?

[Lottoguy]

You'd be surprised what the USA has in weapons that nobody knows about. Remember the stealth program 40 years ago?

[Lottoguy]

I guess Putin doesn't know anything about how the wind works and radiation?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

I guess Putin doesn't know anything about how the wind works and radiation?

Nobody would win an all out nuclear war.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

I guess Putin doesn't know anything about how the wind works and radiation?

Putin is a sociopath and part of that is narcissism. As such, he can't concieve that anyone can stand up to him, or beat him. He seriously believes he can do anything he wants.

If you have been following the news reports, it seems he has been very angry with some of his generals because things are not going how he thought they should. Being a narcissist it can't be his mistake, so he has to blame others.

This relates to the MAD issue. He can't conceive that he could be destroyed. So, it is not a deterrent to him. Our best hope is either a special forces team sent in to assassinate him, or some of his own people take him out.

It is a very precarious situation for everyone.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

I thought Stalin is in a glass case in Red Square? Or was that Walt Disney?

Walt's on ice, under the Magic Kingdom...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fishon

An old Battalion Commander once told me that you should pound the enemy with long range ordinance unmercifully before committing troops.
It seems that the Russians are following a slow methodical advance, saving the troops for the occupation.

Putin has 7,000 dead and about 14,000 injured. A lot of Russian tank crews have left their tanks sit there and given up or just walked away. I'll be curious how things go when the US Switchblade drones are used. I think that it is about 50/50 that the Ukraine wins the war outright. And about 50/50 that Putin gets overthrown. Most Dictators do not last more than 20 years. Germany's army will be stronger than the Russian army in about 2 years.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

I guess we will find out how crazy Putin really is. He is threatening to target weapons systems bing brought into Ukraine. If he does that while they are still in Poland, then we have an attack on a NATO ally and will have to respond. If we have to respond, I hope we respond with overwhelming force and not get into a tit-for-tat match.

Biden is a mannequin shell. No Brainer that he is weak

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by davem4616

Russia may be able to level the Ukrainian landscape by force, and replace the leaders with puppets, but Russia will never conquer the hearts of the people of Ukraine that have tasted freedom...

Someone down at City Fire said that Putin was intent on reestablishing the buffer between Russia and the NATO countries that he had with the pro-Russian government that had been in place in the Ukraine...the one that the West helped put the skids under
...I wasn't able to hear the rest of his story, our table was ready and we left the bar area

The real reason that Putin invaded Ukraine was that he saw them having a better life by becoming Western - while the lives of ordinary Russians were stuck in a bad place and going nowhere. Eventually, with social media, the Russians would want what the Ukrainians have and begin to blame Putin and his Oligarchs. Then Putin could lose his position or even his life. So, that fear was driving him. And this was a good time because Europe was weak and not united - and America was divided. But, America surprised him by exhibiting togetherness and strong leadership. Now it is going to be difficult for Putin to call back his massive slow-moving Military. Putin almost must go forward - no matter how much it costs him in economic terms and soldiers' lives lost. He will either break the Ukraine or Russia. He may (?) get so desperate as to use tactical nuclear missiles, possibly at Mariupol.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by GRACEALLEMAN

Biden is a mannequin shell. No Brainer that he is weak

Wow, you know people have been given timeout for less political statements. I don't recall saying ANYTHING ab out Biden, but you just could not resist the opportunity to spew your political beliefs. #sad.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The real reason that Putin invaded Ukraine was that he saw them having a better life by becoming Western - while the lives of ordinary Russians were stuck in a bad place and going nowhere. Eventually, with social media, the Russians would want what the Ukrainians have and begin to blame Putin and his Oligarchs. Then Putin could lose his position or even his life. So, that fear was driving him. And this was a good time because Europe was weak and not united - and America was divided. But, America surprised him by exhibiting togetherness and strong leadership. Now it is going to be difficult for Putin to call back his massive slow-moving Military. Putin almost must go forward - no matter how much it costs him in economic terms and soldiers' lives lost. He will either break the Ukraine or Russia. He may (?) get so desperate as to use tactical nuclear missiles, possibly at Mariupol.

I agree with you, but I think you left out the why, that being that Ukraine is a Democracy and Putin could not risk Russians seeing a next door Democracy resulting in a better life than his dictatorship.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

I agree with you, but I think you left out the why, that being that Ukraine is a Democracy and Putin could not risk Russians seeing a next door Democracy resulting in a better life than his dictatorship.

You should add Russia very much wants a buffer between itself and Germany/Ukraine

[camaguey48]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Sorry, you are completely wrong on that post. I am not sure where you get that, but we both have the ability to completely destroy each other.

And no one wins.

[Taltarzac725]

How Putin Bungled His Invasion of Ukraine

I do hope this is Putin's Waterloo moment so to speak.