[Taltarzac725]

Live updates: Latest on the Idaho University student killings

This is a very current event.

The arrest is of Bryan Christopher Kohberger, 28.

Who Is Bryan Christopher Kohberger? Suspect Arrested in Idaho Murders

[manaboutown]

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[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I don’t know how they caught him , but I always thought when the DNA came back that they would have there guy. You can’t stab that many people without cutting your own hands , the knife slips as the blood gushes even with one person being multiple stabbed

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

I don’t know how they caught him , but I always thought when the DNA came back that they would have there guy. You can’t stab that many people without cutting your own hands , the knife slips as the blood gushes even with one person being multiple stabbed

I heard on TV that he was tracked down using "ancestrial DNA" which means that they can identify someone who has no DNA stored in the Federal database. I don't know much about DNA, but I am skeptical that this would be possible, unless they had knowledge of who his relatives are.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I heard on TV that he was tracked down using "ancestrial DNA" which means that they can identify someone who has no DNA stored in the Federal database. I don't know much about DNA, but I am skeptical that this would be possible, unless they had knowledge of who his relatives are.

They can probably investigate through various ancestry type sites where people send their DNA in to get knowledge about their forefathers and mothers.

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[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I heard on TV that he was tracked down using "ancestrial DNA" which means that they can identify someone who has no DNA stored in the Federal database. I don't know much about DNA, but I am skeptical that this would be possible, unless they had knowledge of who his relatives are.

As usual with these types of events, a lot of "speculation", but at least one "media" person mentioned that the MOST often used source of ancestral DNA is U.S. military records...meaning that IF the suspect's father or mother was an active military member at one time, that could provide the source/record.

Also interesting (but only mentioned once on another network) was one mention that the suspect had worked at one time as a PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL security guard. Certainly could be, after all, NO criminal record, universally spoken of as a very good student, a person who obviously presented as calm, unemotional, a Bachelor's and Master's in criminology.... seems a perfect "hire" of a school offering part time security work ! Drip, drip, drip....in the weeks to come we can expect an never ending stream of revelations on this guy, it's already started. Class mates have described him as "intelligent but socially awkward", not a totally unusual circumstance, a profile millions must fit, but there will be much more to come..... drip, drip, drip....

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

As usual with these types of events, a lot of "speculation", but at least one "media" person mentioned that the MOST often used source of ancestral DNA is U.S. military records...meaning that IF the suspect's father or mother was an active military member at one time, that could provide the source/record.

Also interesting (but only mentioned once on another network) was one mention that the suspect had worked at one time as a PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL security guard. Certainly could be, after all, NO criminal record, universally spoken of as a very good student, a person who obviously presented an calm, unemotional, and a Bachelor's and Master's in criminology.... seems a perfect "hire" of a school offering part time security work !

The whole thing reminds me of Crime and Punishment the Russian novel. Crime and Punishment - Wikipedia

Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky - Free Ebook

[tvbound]

I just hope they have the right/only person involved, with enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that holds up in court and haven't been pressured to just get someone...while the real scumbag is sitting back laughing.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

My first reaction is an imitation of the show "How to get away with Murder", which is also in an academic setting, but also starts to go a bit haywire absurd as the show progresses. Stopped watching because of the absurdities, plus the show starting getting really dark. .

anyway, the same person, or a person with the same name, posted a very dark PhD research request on a website
I saw several tweets like this on Twitter, before the announcement of his arrest. The internet sleuths are pretty good. A similar eerie show is a Netflix show, "Don't F* with Cats" in case you want to sort of get an idea on how creative sleuths find some really good clues.

criminology guy

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by tvbound

I just hope they have the right/only person involved, with enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that holds up in court and haven't been pressured to just get someone...while the real scumbag is sitting back laughing.

It is hard to game science if the science is there. DNA is how they finally solved the Michelle Mitchell murder in Reno, Nevada. Rodney Halbower's DNA on a cigarette left on the 2-24-1976 scene. Chain of custody can be a problem but was not with that case.

[msilagy]

They match his DNA with similar DNA in the ancestral data base and go from there. Someone in his family must have completed a swab and sent it in. I did it myself so IF someone in my family committed these crimes they would find him thru my DNA. He may have worn gloves but this will all come out. Gonclaves father said they don't know him but believes there was a connection - he just can't say right now. Kayla was most likely his target. It will all come to light. I have followed this closely. He is a definite suicide risk I think if he gets the chance - although he might love the limelight too. He has no soul and may have been a mass murderer. I believe he skinned that dog also. RIP to these beautiful kids. Peace ultimately to their families.

[Johnsocat]

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? If it turns out this guy is truly innocent then his life is now ruined...

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I heard on TV that he was tracked down using "ancestrial DNA" which means that they can identify someone who has no DNA stored in the Federal database. I don't know much about DNA, but I am skeptical that this would be possible, unless they had knowledge of who his relatives are.

The DNA of the suspect's relatives is alike in many aspects (but not in its entirety). If one of these relatives (i.e. mother, father, brother, sister, etc.) has their DNA on file it is a simple matter to compare crime-scene DNA to the DNA of these relatives and narrow down the field of suspects to just a few candidates. Subsequent police work (i.e. verifying candidate's whereabouts) can then usually eliminate all but a prime suspect. The police don't necessarily need to know the suspect's relatives, since they can easily search our very broad DNA data base for matches.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Johnsocat

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? If it turns out this guy is truly innocent then his life is now ruined...

The press often tries the person before he or she ever gets to trial. That has always happened as long as there have been crimes that are of interest to many people. At least, the press is more professional than in the 1920s, 1950s, 1960s, etc.

The Moscow PD were probably very careful with the steps they took because of the worldwide attention these 4 murders have received.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by msilagy

They match his DNA with similar DNA in the ancestral data base and go from there. Someone in his family must have completed a swab and sent it in. I did it myself so IF someone in my family committed these crimes they would find him thru my DNA. He may have worn gloves but this will all come out. Gonclaves father said they don't know him but believes there was a connection - he just can't say right now. Kayla was most likely his target. It will all come to light. I have followed this closely. He is a definite suicide risk I think if he gets the chance - although he might love the limelight too. He has no soul and may have been a mass murderer. I believe he skinned that dog also. RIP to these beautiful kids. Peace ultimately to their families.

I have watched several newscasts about these murders and I never heard about "skinning a dog". If true that would be newsworthy and very provocative. I like many people will have this on my radar for future news.