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Old 06-11-2020, 09:10 AM
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National review is a propaganda site.
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Actually they got it from The Daily Beast which has a transcript of the conference call in which Birx made the comment. Not one of the fact check sites has refuted the comment.
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:16 AM
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Yeah, I get it. "They" are "stupid", "violent" etc. I don't believe that most protesters are either of those. Some of the violence is coming from agitators, criminals and thugs. A few protesters get caught up in the heat of protesting. A few protesters get an adrenaline rush joining in on looting. I've seem protesters chasing off these bad people and protecting people and property.

I'm not defending anyone and I do see the violence as deplorable behavior. I also see the pain.

I don't have any statistics to support my opinions and I could be wrong. Just my observation.
No statistics - how dare you. Don't you know this site is only for people with Phd's in Statistics. We'll let it slide this time. For the future go to a site called Google. You'll be able to find statistics that suit whatever opinion you have. I'm sure you'll find - all protesters are rioters; no protesters are rioters; all rioters are lefty's; all rioters are righty's; no such thing as rioters, just misunderstood something or other.
Also, I was going to write something just like you wrote. How did you read my mind?"
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:27 AM
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Are you upset that protesters and rioters are being lumped together ? So 1 police Officer acts improper and 800,000 are considered racists. That doesn’t reek too strong if hypocracy.

FYI, nationally blacks make up 12.2% of law enforcement and are 13% of the population. That’s a pretty close reflection if society.

No one disagrees that Chauvin was wrong and should go to jail but to say he represents all cops even though they denounce him is pretty ignorant.
It's a good thing that blacks are in law enforcement, but yet people of color somehow out number white people in prison. There's an old saying "To someone with a hammer everything looks like a nail" , we've allowed black people and people of color to become the nail for law enforcement and that needs to change. When police officers need to fill their quota for the week the easiest place is to head to the black neighborhood. In either neighborhood you'll find someone driving drunk, riding with their high beams on, loitering, jay walking. But going to the black neighborhood is much easier than going shaking down some white kids in an affluent neighborhood, less pushback from affluent whites, and because whites have been hypnotized to believe that blacks are inferior, inclined to criminal behavior, etc... ,probably from watching COPS and Live PD, we argue that it ok.

In 2017, blacks represented 12% of the U.S. adult population but 33% of the sentenced prison population. Whites accounted for 64% of adults but 30% of prisoners. And while Hispanics represented 16% of the adult population, they accounted for 23% of inmates.
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:28 AM
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Protesting peaceably for what one believes in should be embraced

Destruction stealing and causing bodily harm under the pretense of protesting should dealt with harshly and swiftly
Said the King of England to the Colonists in the 1700's
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:32 AM
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I think the majority of protesters are well intentioned. I also believe that there are anarchists who just want to overthrow the system, whatever that system might be.
I just saw pictures of the tearing down of the slave-traders statue in England. The people who did it were white guys. No blacks in sight. I blame anarchists in both countries. In fact I suspect that all countries have this small minority of people, who just want to insight chaos.
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:39 AM
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Pretty sure Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, Ted Kaczynski, Eric Robert Rudolph, Wade Michael Page, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Dylann Roof, James Thomas Hodgkinson, James Alex Fields, Robert Bowers, and Patrick Crusius are not Muslim.
Domestic terrorism in the United States - Wikipedia)
Research please. Tsarnaev brothers were raised Sunni Muslim.


The Brothers: The Road to an American Tragedy by Masha Gessen

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Old 06-11-2020, 09:43 AM
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I think the majority of protesters are well intentioned. I also believe that there are anarchists who just want to overthrow the system, whatever that system might be.
I just saw pictures of the tearing down of the slave-traders statue in England. The people who did it were white guys. No blacks in sight. I blame anarchists in both countries. In fact I suspect that all countries have this small minority of people, who just want to insight chaos.
Agreed, and in the US there are anarchists on both sides of the political spectrum, not just Antifa, although is seems to be the Fox News word of the day - wonder why, but also the KKK, Proud Boys, and Boogaloo. Boogaloo is a group often associated with far-right extremist ideology that wants to initiate a civil war. The Boogaloo movement, members of which are often referred to as Boogaloo boys or Boogaloo bois, is a loosely organized American far-right extremist movement. Members of the boogaloo movement say they are preparing for a coming second American Civil War, which they call the "boogaloo". The term is used by members of the group to refer to violent uprisings against the federal government or left-wing political opponents, often anticipated to follow government confiscation of firearms.
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:46 AM
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Well said! But when are we going to finally stand up and demand our rights? I am sick of always having tobepolitically correct I am sick of the sensational news instead of correct news, I want honesty!
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:49 AM
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Research please. Tsarnaev brothers were raised Sunni Muslim.


The Brothers: The Road to an American Tragedy by Masha Gessen
You are correct, they were Muslim, my apologies. The rest are Christian.
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:52 AM
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Well said! But when are we going to finally stand up and demand our rights? I am sick of always having tobepolitically correct I am sick of the sensational news instead of correct news, I want honesty!
What rights are you lacking that need to demanded?
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Old 06-11-2020, 10:06 AM
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Having been oppressed for so long they just don’t care.
Please explain this "oppression."
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Old 06-11-2020, 10:08 AM
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The arrests being made by the police in the areas where places have been destroyed including the police station and in KY are young white males affiliated with the White Nationalist terrorist.
How is this even possible? police ONLY arrest person's of color or minorities
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Old 06-11-2020, 10:19 AM
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Excuse me . So protestors and rioters are one in the same ? Just the fact that all pandemic rules were not followed is similar to committing murder ? Isn’t that what we where told ?
Yes, protestors and rioters are the same. Anyone observing a crime that does not report it, is an accessory to the crime. Just like how those three other COPS are going to be charged for watching their fellow officer commit an unlawful act.
I have not seen any mention of comparing pandemic violations to committing a murder. Did someone suggest that they were the same?
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Old 06-11-2020, 10:21 AM
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What rights are you lacking that need to demanded?
On the other hand, what rights are minorities "lacking" that need to be demanded?
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Old 06-11-2020, 10:23 AM
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Good comment, yes that is the thinking. Evidently all Muslims are terrorists too.
And ALL COPs are bad because one is bad, right?
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