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Originally Posted by Dahabs

Try this ; 25 charts that show how systemic racism is in the US - Business Insider My comment was not addressed specifically at the police.

So you refer me to a left leaning publication. I started looking at the “charts and graphs”. For example one showing the disparity between the percentage of blacks in the population and in prison vs whites. Black males make up roughly 6% of the population yet commit more than 50% of the murders in the US and over 40% of the violent crimes. Therefore there should be a disproportionate percentage of blacks in prison. The chart on prison time for minor offenses fails to differentiate between those with priors (three strike law) Look at the actual numbers, not a left wing publication’s interpretation of them.

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Originally Posted by roscoguy

I totally reject the idea that "the reason" for the protests and riots is police brutality, if and of itself. Police brutality is a symptom of the racism that still exits throughout our society. The flagrant killing of George Floyd was merely the catalyst for the protests. The rest of your OP is, to me, more twisted logic and refusal to admit that the actual "problem" always had it's roots in racism.

If what you say is true, please explain the nearly identical death of Tony Timpa...

[BS Beef]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

Many states have decriminalized simple possession or use of marijuana or even legalized it. One of the big pushes is to legalize it nationwide, partly because millions of people with criminal records due to marijuana would have those records expunged. This affects all ethnicities. While I don’t use it and wouldn’t start and think legalizing it would be a mistake, legalizing it would certainly lead to a big decrease in policing, arrests, court crowding, and incarceration or other punishments. Think how many hours it takes two cops to make a marijuana arrest, take the person to the precinct, write up the report, Show up in court, wait for hours to testify for two minutes, etc. One joint could easily take a total of 16 hours of police time used up, and we pay for that!

You lost me. You say you don't want it legalized but then make the argument for why it would be a good thing to legalize it. I agree with your reasons for legalizing it. I am completely on board for for legalizing it as soon as they come up with a field test for police to test for it (similar to how they test for drinking and driving now).

[kanoa1kale2]

Originally Posted by Bellavita

Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

Please quote facts disproving the posts. Please post your suggestions for solving the problem. Statistics are not white speak, they are facts. Solutions should be based on facts, not fantasy.

[Dilligas]

Originally Posted by allsport

You obviously watch Faux News and you lack understanding of the history of this country. Sad, just sad. I wonder what you would say if that was your son with a knee on his throat. There but the grace of god go you.

Firstly, my son is not a criminal, would not resist arrest if in that postion, would not pass conterfiet money. Those 4 cops were criminally wrong and like any criminal should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. We need to weed out the 'bad cops', disband the police unions that defend and protect 'bad cops' from being fired and prosecuted. Cops hold no different importance than you, I, or any Black, Brown, Yellow, or White citizen. All lives matter. The answer is not to disband police departments and create open season for criminals, or viligianties.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by New Englander

How come the good Reverends Al Sharpton & Jessie Jackson never seems to mention this? And there never seems to be riots and looting over black on black daily murders.

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
― Booker T. Washington

[airstreamingypsy]

So, let me see if I have this right. The protest is about the police, who take an oath to protect and serve, murdering unarmed black people and the "good cops" who do nothing to stop it.... and somehow black on black murders are in the conversation?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by roscoguy

I totally reject the idea that "the reason" for the protests and riots is police brutality, if and of itself. Police brutality is a symptom of the racism that still exits throughout our society. The flagrant killing of George Floyd was merely the catalyst for the protests. The rest of your OP is, to me, more twisted logic and refusal to admit that the actual "problem" always had it's roots in racism.

Not all police brutality is related to race. Whites are also victims of brutality. Racially based brutality or the appearance that it is racially based brutality, is just more publicized and better suited for the agenda. Plenty of white heads have been busted, but do not get the same consideration. Perhaps it is thought that they deserved it?

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by Dilligas

Firstly, my son is not a criminal, would not resist arrest if in that postion, would not pass conterfiet money. Those 4 cops were criminally wrong and like any criminal should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. We need to weed out the 'bad cops', disband the police unions that defend and protect 'bad cops' from being fired and prosecuted. Cops hold no different importance than you, I, or any Black, Brown, Yellow, or White citizen. All lives matter. The answer is not to disband police departments and create open season for criminals, or viligianties.

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Disband means reallocate funds, not eliminate the police. Advocates are looking to downsize funding or to shift money from law-enforcement to other programs and issues that go directly to communities. Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza said the "defund the police" movement means investing "in the resources our communities need."

"So much of policing right now is generated and directed towards quality-of-life issues: homelessness, drug addiction, domestic violence," Garza said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." "What we do need is increased funding for housing, we need increased funding for education, we need increased funding for quality of life of communities who are over-policed and over-surveilled."

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

So, let me see if I have this right. The protest is about the police, who take an oath to protect and serve, murdering unarmed black people and the "good cops" who do nothing to stop it.... and somehow black on black murders are in the conversation?

Yep, we all believe Black Lives Matter. 9 unarmed blacks were killed last year by Police. That's not even a bad Sunday in Chicago. Thousands of blacks are killed by blacks every year. The Police are amateurs when it comes to killing blacks.

[Dilligas]

The comments given here are highly influenced by newscasts watched by the replyer. There are so many reports online and individual that are not reported by the National News Agencies because the item does not follow their objective.

I wish people who comment would stop politicising others through what they think others watch in newscasts. All American news broadcasts are biased....they do not "report the news" they give their opinions of what they think will retain more viewers....they are in the business of selling advertising based upon viewership. The simple proof of that statement is watch your favorite american newscast and then watch BBC or an Englishing speaking newscast from France, Italy, Germany, or Japan. The 'others' report the news that is happening without opinion trying to influence the viewer. They don't begin a report with "you saw it here first" or "in an exclusive report", or "we are bringing you this report first'.....etc.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

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Disband means reallocate funds, not eliminate the police. Advocates are looking to downsize funding or to shift money from law-enforcement to other programs and issues that go directly to communities. Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza said the "defund the police" movement means investing "in the resources our communities need."

Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police

Opinion | Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police - The New York Times

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Dilligas

The comments given here are highly influenced by newscasts watched by the replyer. There are so many reports online and individual that are not reported by the National News Agencies because the item does not follow their objective.

I wish people who comment would stop politicising others through what they think others watch in newscasts. All American news broadcasts are biased....they do not "report the news" they give their opinions of what they think will retain more viewers....they are in the business of selling advertising based upon viewership. The simple proof of that statement is watch your favorite american newscast and then watch BBC or an Englishing speaking newscast from France, Italy, Germany, or Japan. The 'others' report the news that is happening without opinion trying to influence the viewer. They don't begin a report with "you saw it here first" or "in an exclusive report", or "we are bringing you this report first'.....etc.

Lots of truth here, but so many fans on one network or the other believe it only applies to another.

READING, to me is the best way to say abreast of things. But, with the networks, if you do both read and watch, you will soon find where truth lies and where conspiracy begins.

The point you make is what is driving much of the divide in our country, and if you cared, and followed your advice, you might find how others in the world now see us. It is not pretty.

[Scorpyo]

Personally I believe Chauvin was a bigot more so than a racist. He treated perceived criminals with intolerance. I would venture to guess if we saw his arrest record we’d see many white arrests and probably many of those done with excessive force. He was extremely prejudiced and appeared to have a superiority complex. I would venture to guess he felt superior to everyone except cops. The choke hold he administered was probably done thousands of times across the country with no resulting deaths. In this case it appeared that Chauvin was showing that he had absolute power over what he perceived to be a low life criminal. Sadly it all went south. Given that the suspect was black it gave rise to some legitimate concers but more so to the well-known opportunists – Sharpton, Antifa, AOC, etc. They turned a bigot who used excessive force into a racist for their own purposes. Do you realize everyone reading this thread could be considered a racist? We all have our prejudices. I hate people that take advantage of older people. If one of those that take advantage is black, Asian or Hispanic does that make me a racist? After all I did say hate. I hate rapists and child molesters, I wish they would all rot and suffer in prison for the rest of their lives. If any of them are black, Asian or Hispanic does that make me a racist? Again I did say hate. It’s so easy to throw around words when they suit a person’s agenda. I would love to see how much Sharpton’s and Antifa’s bank accounts rose since this incident began.

[jjombrello]

Thanks for the good article and you are spot on.