[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

And herein is the rub to your argument. The USPS is facing a severe financial deficit because of all that you posted above. The Postmaster General has an OBLIGATION to do what needs to be done to reduce costs since Congress ( AKA the House) has failed for years to appropriate the necessary monies to keep USPS solvent. As to the sorting machines, they are ancient technology with multiple mechanical parts prone to breakdown. New digital sorters are being installed as funds allow. As to mailboxes, we all know now that many were simply being replaced with new boxes and others were being removed because their use was below the base standards set by USPS. Anyone who gets mail can also PUT mail there to be delivered elsewhere.

This whole Kabuki Theatre issue of some nefarious goings on is, as Shakespeare put it, "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".

Well said. I wonder how often any of us has put mail in a blue postal box

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

And herein is the rub to your argument. The USPS is facing a severe financial deficit because of all that you posted above. The Postmaster General has an OBLIGATION to do what needs to be done to reduce costs since Congress ( AKA the House) has failed for years to appropriate the necessary monies to keep USPS solvent. As to the sorting machines, they are ancient technology with multiple mechanical parts prone to breakdown. New digital sorters are being installed as funds allow. As to mailboxes, we all know now that many were simply being replaced with new boxes and others were being removed because their use was below the base standards set by USPS. Anyone who gets mail can also PUT mail there to be delivered elsewhere.

This whole Kabuki Theatre issue of some nefarious goings on is, as Shakespeare put it, "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".

A favorite poster of mine asked this wuestion awhile back, and to this point, lots of words, but no response to WHY NOW on the surface, if what is being said is true, this might be the worst possible time to create dissension at USPS, and to bring in someone with zero qualifications.

Why not last year...pre pandemic....why not anytime but now....WHY NOW

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bucco

A favorite poster of mine asked this wuestion awhile back, and to this point, lots of words, but no response to WHY NOW on the surface, if what is being said is true, this might be the worst possible time to create dissension at USPS, and to bring in someone with zero qualifications.

Why not last year...pre pandemic....why not anytime but now....WHY NOW

I have no idea why now but as I believe I answered last time you said this Why Not now.

Post office needs to be more efficient in terms of equipment and deployment of manpower.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I have no idea why now but as I believe I answered last time you said this Why Not now.

Post office needs to be more efficient in terms of equipment and deployment of manpower.

Not a new problem at all, is it ???

Are you suggesting this just occurred in June of this year ?

WHY NOW is a great question. Why create havoc in the middle of a pandemic with inexperienced folks at the helm. A search for someone qualified would have been great thing to start and beginning 3 years ago would have helped.

Why create chaos in the country while we fight through a pandemic ? Why not start years ago ?

AND I am saying this assuming you are correct in all of your "assumptions", which is what they are frankly.

A poor business move for sure....a move like this in private business for the wrong reasons could lead to bankruptcy, don't you think.

An NPR interview had Art Sackler, manager of the Coalition for a 21st Century Postal Service, a group of companies that rely on the post office, including Amazon, Hallmark and others. Say this about the moves...

"Having potentially a material change, if you like, without any kind of consultation is a disappointment and hopefully was just a mistake or a mix-up. It looks as if what they're proposing has the potential to do everything you just said - to delay mail, to have that mail that is being delayed accumulate from day to day."



Critics Say Changes To USPS May Completely Transform The Post Office : NPR

"Far from being a drag on taxpayers, the Postal Service operates – by law – without a dime of taxpayer money. And, despite the lingering impact of the worst recession in 80 years and the challenges posed by the Internet, the earned revenue from selling stamps and other products and services has produced a $3.7 billion operating profit since 2013 – including $522 million in the first quarter of Fiscal Year 2017 alone.

The Postal Service provides Americans and their businesses with the industrial world’s most affordable delivery network. Moreover, USPS is the centerpiece of the $1.3 trillion national mailing industry that employs 7 million Americans in the private sector. That figure consists of, just to cite a few examples: 180,238 Wisconsinites, 551,988 Texans, 121,763 Oregonians, 170,731 Hoosiers and 966,901 Californians.

So USPS is a driving engine of our national economy, as much today as ever.

Criticism of the Postal Service is unfounded and unfair | TheHill

And finally...

"...a startling departure from precedent. From the 1850s until the 1960s, Congress routinely covered whatever deficits the Postal Service incurred — no matter how large — and with little controversy, partisanship or debate. Why? Because the Postal Service was a public service, whose rationale was civic rather than commercial. As a New York journalist put it in 1854: The Postal Service’s “benefit to mankind” far outweighed the “pecuniary consideration” of any financial shortfall. In 1958, a federal law made this even clearer: The Postal Service was “clearly not a business enterprise conducted for profit.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...like-business/

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Not a new problem at all, is it ???

Are you suggesting this just occurred in June of this year ?

WHY NOW is a great question. Why create havoc in the middle of a pandemic with inexperienced folks at the helm. A search for someone qualified would have been great thing to start and beginning 3 years ago would have helped.

Why create chaos in the country while we fight through a pandemic ? Why not start years ago ?

AND I am saying this assuming you are correct in all of your "assumptions", which is what they are frankly.

A poor business move for sure....a move like this in private business for the wrong reasons could lead to bankruptcy, don't you think.

An NPR interview had Art Sackler, manager of the Coalition for a 21st Century Postal Service, a group of companies that rely on the post office, including Amazon, Hallmark and others. Say this about the moves...

"Having potentially a material change, if you like, without any kind of consultation is a disappointment and hopefully was just a mistake or a mix-up. It looks as if what they're proposing has the potential to do everything you just said - to delay mail, to have that mail that is being delayed accumulate from day to day."



Critics Say Changes To USPS May Completely Transform The Post Office : NPR

"Far from being a drag on taxpayers, the Postal Service operates – by law – without a dime of taxpayer money. And, despite the lingering impact of the worst recession in 80 years and the challenges posed by the Internet, the earned revenue from selling stamps and other products and services has produced a $3.7 billion operating profit since 2013 – including $522 million in the first quarter of Fiscal Year 2017 alone.

The Postal Service provides Americans and their businesses with the industrial world’s most affordable delivery network. Moreover, USPS is the centerpiece of the $1.3 trillion national mailing industry that employs 7 million Americans in the private sector. That figure consists of, just to cite a few examples: 180,238 Wisconsinites, 551,988 Texans, 121,763 Oregonians, 170,731 Hoosiers and 966,901 Californians.

So USPS is a driving engine of our national economy, as much today as ever.

Criticism of the Postal Service is unfounded and unfair | TheHill

And finally...

"...a startling departure from precedent. From the 1850s until the 1960s, Congress routinely covered whatever deficits the Postal Service incurred — no matter how large — and with little controversy, partisanship or debate. Why? Because the Postal Service was a public service, whose rationale was civic rather than commercial. As a New York journalist put it in 1854: The Postal Service’s “benefit to mankind” far outweighed the “pecuniary consideration” of any financial shortfall. In 1958, a federal law made this even clearer: The Postal Service was “clearly not a business enterprise conducted for profit.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...like-business/

I agree this should have been done a few years ago, but do not think the post office is really in an upheaval by discontinuing highly inefficient sorting machines and eliminating some boxes.

Have not noticed any slowdown in the mail so far, have you?

Going by what former postal employees have said on this thread no time like the present.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

A favorite poster of mine asked this wuestion awhile back, and to this point, lots of words, but no response to WHY NOW on the surface, if what is being said is true, this might be the worst possible time to create dissension at USPS, and to bring in someone with zero qualifications.

Why not last year...pre pandemic....why not anytime but now....WHY NOW

Oh come on. You surely know the answer to your question. Who started the conspiracy theory? Think.

As to the PMG, DeJoy has a degree in logistics management, is a CPA, and has run several global logistics operations. What is the USPS if not a logistics operation. He came into the role this past June, assessed the situation, and continued the streamlining started in the previous Administration. Better a businessman than another politician.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Oh come on. You surely know the answer to your question. Who started the conspiracy theory? Think.

As to the PMG, DeJoy has a degree in logistics management, is a CPA, and has run several global logistics operations. What is the USPS if not a logistics operation. He came into the role this past June, assessed the situation, and continued the streamlining started in the previous Administration. Better a businessman than another politician.

Agreed.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Agreed.

I know or at least hope, that you know the new PMG's resume is longer than that and includes much more.

Please tell me were or how he "assessed" anything. He tells congress he did not order any of the removal of equipment and does not know who ordered it. He does not know.

[Neils]

$25 billion to pay for lavish pension plan and satisfy the postal union. Private companies can not afford the pensions paid to gov retirees

[Kilmacowen]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Oh come on. You surely know the answer to your question. Who started the conspiracy theory? Think.

As to the PMG, DeJoy has a degree in logistics management, is a CPA, and has run several global logistics operations. What is the USPS if not a logistics operation. He came into the role this past June, assessed the situation, and continued the streamlining started in the previous Administration. Better a businessman than another politician.

To bad he didn't even know the price to mail a post card. Anyone with a brain can see what is going on here! Voter suppression. Megan Brennan was harrassed and basically "kicked out" as postmaster general. Conveniently replaced by big-time donor to suppress voting.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Kilmacowen

To bad he didn't even know the price to mail a post card. Anyone with a brain can see what is going on here! Voter suppression. Megan Brennan was harrassed and basically "kicked out" as postmaster general. Conveniently replaced by big-time donor to suppress voting.

And just how many post cards do you mail every day?? At what price? No peeking at Google, now.

[Kilmacowen]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

And just how many post cards do you mail every day?? At what price? No peeking at Google, now.

That was just one of the MANY simple questions he couldn't even answer.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Kilmacowen

And just where was this? Post a link, not just listen to faux news

It was in
Philly in 2008, and I was appalled.

Stand by, we already have been notified troops at voter stations in 2020

By the way, those Panthers were intimidating but did nothing. I was vocal on here and did not feel anywherevas intimidated as right now

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Link with credible evidence, please.

And that is not meant to defend the person you accuse (iwas the most anti you ever saw) , but an indictment of reckless and malicious accusations.

Did the Obama Administration Remove USPS Mailboxes?

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

It was in
Philly in 2008, and I was appalled.

Stand by, we already have been notified troops at voter stations in 2020

By the way, those Panthers were intimidating but did nothing. I was vocal on here and did not feel anywherevas intimidated as right now

Who is "we" and how were they notified and by whom?