[DeanFL]

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With the speed of the jury verdict - Chauvin will be found guilty of some, if not all charges. Not saying right or wrong at all.

BUT with the jury NOT sequestered for the 3 weeks, with all the local MN publicity and "commotion" and ESPECIALLY the public "commentary" by political leaders... Definite Appeal material for defense. Said directly from the Judge after the jury left the courtroom after the Closing>

"I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch and our function," Cahill added later. "I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the Constitution, to respect a coequal branch of government."
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[Stu from NYC]

So do you think the rioters and looters will be upset as they have no good excuse to do the things they like to do?

Missing out on the free stuff.

[coralway]

Guilty on all 3 counts. Sentencing in 8 weeks.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

So do you think the rioters and looters will be upset as they have no good excuse to do the things they like to do?

Missing out on the free stuff.

WOW......so many simply miss the point of exactly what justice is, and roll everything into some messed up ball of pure hate.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bucco

WOW......so many simply miss the point of exactly what justice is, and roll everything into some messed up ball of pure hate.

Chauvin got what he deserved. No problem with that at all.

My problem is with the people that use tragedies like this as an excuse to loot and steal.

Are you going to tell me this does not happen?

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Bucco

WOW......so many simply miss the point of exactly what justice is, and roll everything into some messed up ball of pure hate.

You are exactly correct! Which is why this is such an important step toward change, true justice and equality - for everyone.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Chauvin got what he deserved. No problem with that at all.

My problem is with the people that use tragedies like this as an excuse to loot and steal.

Are you going to tell me this does not happen?

You mean like those people who were fed up with unfairness, inequality and used it as an excuse, to dump someone else's property into Boston Harbor in 1773?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Chauvin got what he deserved. No problem with that at all.

My problem is with the people that use tragedies like this as an excuse to loot and steal.

Are you going to tell me this does not happen?

You mean like the proud boys?

[gatorbill1]

I hope this sends a message that "everyone" is responsible for their actions

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Chauvin got what he deserved. No problem with that at all.

My problem is with the people that use tragedies like this as an excuse to loot and steal.

Are you going to tell me this does not happen?

Of course not, but how can your very first intinct be to come on any forum, and begin riot talk.

You "better than everybodys" think you and you alone are opposed to any violence in the street.

Most want justice...period, end of sentence.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

You mean like the proud boys?

Good point. Hearing already how they are misunderstood, and that bringing weapons into our capital, stealing, causing fear and confusion, threatening elected officials is quite okay.

[blueash]

back to the OP's original posting. Every conviction is appealed. I have no idea what STRONGLY appealed means. Unless there was an error of law by the judge or some sort of demonstrable jury tampering this conviction will stand. That the jury decided so quickly suggests that the prosecution had a very strong case and presented it well.

The jury decides the facts. They heard lots of facts including every negative thing that could be said about Floyd, his past behavior with arrests, his drug use etc. Despite that the jury correctly found that Chauvin killed him. The jury never heard about Chauvin's past history of excess force or the IRS case against him. So he got every benefit of the doubt, as is our system of law. Chauvin going to jail for 12 1/2 will not bring back Floyd and you know he is not going into a general population of prisoners.

Maybe, just maybe, one life will be saved by this conviction now that cops know some juries will hold them responsible.

[karostay]

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

I hope this sends a message that "everyone" is responsible for their actions

Somehow you think this will stop crime???

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by blueash

back to the OP's original posting. Every conviction is appealed. I have no idea what STRONGLY appealed means. Unless there was an error of law by the judge or some sort of demonstrable jury tampering this conviction will stand. That the jury decided so quickly suggests that the prosecution had a very strong case and presented it well.

The jury decides the facts. They heard lots of facts including every negative thing that could be said about Floyd, his past behavior with arrests, his drug use etc. Despite that the jury correctly found that Chauvin killed him. The jury never heard about Chauvin's past history of excess force or the IRS case against him. So he got every benefit of the doubt, as is our system of law. Chauvin going to jail for 12 1/2 will not bring back Floyd and you know he is not going into a general population of prisoners.

Maybe, just maybe, one life will be saved by this conviction now that cops know some juries will hold them responsible.

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please, one's "side" is so easily seen with comments as this. I'm the Op - and by "Strong Appeal", I meant possible OUTSIDE influences since the jury was not sequestered, especially the last weekend when a Congresswoman came to MN specifically to address the "crowd" outside of the courthouse with televised, reported "announcements" possibly threatening the "proper jury outcome", OR....

I ALWAYS flip issues 180degrees. For those with views on one side - simple introspect, and what if matters WERE 180degrees. Would you TRULY feel the same way?
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