[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Hmmmm one side had perfect early mail in vote and perfect ID at polls , the other side had all illegal mail in ballots and fake Id ‘S at polls hmmmmm

[airstreamingypsy]

Voter fraud is almost non existent, it's a fantasy created by someone who cannot stand to lose, was setting up to have a reason why he lost.

[Villages Kahuna]

Voting procedures are established by laws passed by the various state legislatures. There are wide variations in those procedures.

Instances of “voter fraud” are demonstrable and provable violations of our state voting laws, not just what you think or wish is evidence of fraud.

Think of it this way...would you be so certain that you have observed or experienced instances of voter fraud that you would hire an attorney to file a lawsuit asserting fraud and pay the legal fees from hour own pocket? If you weren’t sure it was a violation of state voting laws, or if you didn’t have the evidence to prove your assertion, chances are it wasn’t “fraud”.

[KRM0614]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

Hey you'll, this discussion doesn't have to be "political", so let's not make this about one party or another. Do not mention the "D" word or "R" word, nor the "B" word or the "T" word.

Because, doing so will get this thread deleted.

This is about our political process, defined by the Constitution of the United States with a preamble

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Please read this twice (or more). Pay particular attention to the concepts enumerated within the parentheses.

With that in mind, let's discuss voter fraud.

You first.

Like Jackson brown music

[xcaligirl]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Is it o.k. to say I am frustrated and depressed? I am.

Me too, Gracie. I don't think we're alone on this one!

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by xcaligirl

Me too, Gracie. I don't think we're alone on this one!

Me too Gracie. I have felt that way for the last 4 years. However, I am encouraged by the majority of the people in this nation and they have spoken. It has given me new faith that we will become a United States of America.

[Lottoguy]

In PA they have had 19 watchers from both sides INSIDE watching the counting. DJT said there was none. A blatant lie that only finds the ears of those who want to believe. So sad....

[Lottoguy]

There is a study that says your more likely to get hit by lightning then get away with voter fraud.

[Lottoguy]

There is a study that says your more likely to get hit by lightning then get away with voter fraud. Getting Hit by Lightning Is More Common Than Voter Fraud in the US

[Lottoguy]

I've always been asked to show ID when I vote. Getting Hit by Lightning Is More Common Than Voter Fraud in the US

[Maryland Girl]

The problem is unsolicited mass mailed ballots. That is why they are looking closely at Nevada.

Briefly, in Nevada, as in other states, the voter rolls can be dirty, meaning they have deceased people and people who have moved out of state. Again, in Nevada, they mail out ballots to everyone on the voter roll. Multiple ballots end up at the same address because there was a person living there who is now deceased or there is a live person(s) living at that address currently. Also, in Nevada, they changed the rules so that the ballot is not verified by a signature. This leads to ballot harvesting; people, some of whom are paid by taxpayer dollars, can help the voter to fill out the ballot, and/or collect bundles of ballots. These bundles can be set aside and as the vote count goes on, they know how many votes they need to win so they just count more ballots from those in the bundle. There is photographic evidence in previous Nevada elections of ballots just laying out on the street and in the gutters. Especially along the strip. My understanding is that the lawsuit brought by the Trump administration in Nevada wants to prove that this type of mass mailing of ballots leads to systemic voter fraud across multiple states. This is how it may end up at the SC.

This is what happened in CA in 2018 (where ballot harvesting is legal) when multiple candidates for the House who 'won' their elections were later told they had lost. One rep. was even sworn in before being told they had lost. There was no push back on this so it continues. It is also what was happening to Scott and DeSantis in 2018. As the evening wore on, boxes of ballots were being found under desks, in car trunks, etc. in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. DeSantis cleaned this up, which was instrumental in FL having such a successful uncontested election in 2020.

It does not matter what party you belong to. Every citizen should be concerned and want fair elections with integrity. If they can commit fraud this election, then they can commit fraud in another election. That goes for either party. Remember the recent case in NC where a Republican was committing fraud and the whole election result was thrown out and the election held again. The American people have lost so much faith in their institutions and if they lose faith in the integrity of our elections, that is of great importance to us as a nation. We should all stand together and reject any voter fraud because it is not a partisan issue.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

Hey you'll, this discussion doesn't have to be "political", so let's not make this about one party or another. Do not mention the "D" word or "R" word, nor the "B" word or the "T" word.

Because, doing so will get this thread deleted.

This is about our political process, defined by the Constitution of the United States with a preamble

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Please read this twice (or more). Pay particular attention to the concepts enumerated within the parentheses.

With that in mind, let's discuss voter fraud.

You first.

There have been hundreds of studies of voter fraud in the US and they always show that it is non-existent or minuscule. The continuing narrative saying it exists is just another worthless conspiracy theory.

[Lottoguy]

Getting Hit by Lightning Is More Common Than Voter Fraud in the US

[Lottoguy]

What is your source for saying this? Talk is cheap...

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by Maryland Girl

The problem is unsolicited mass mailed ballots. That is why they are looking closely at Nevada.

Briefly, in Nevada, as in other states, the voter rolls can be dirty, meaning they have deceased people and people who have moved out of state. Again, in Nevada, they mail out ballots to everyone on the voter roll. Multiple ballots end up at the same address because there was a person living there who is now deceased or there is a live person(s) living at that address currently. Also, in Nevada, they changed the rules so that the ballot is not verified by a signature. This leads to ballot harvesting; people, some of whom are paid by taxpayer dollars, can help the voter to fill out the ballot, and/or collect bundles of ballots. These bundles can be set aside and as the vote count goes on, they know how many votes they need to win so they just count more ballots from those in the bundle. There is photographic evidence in previous Nevada elections of ballots just laying out on the street and in the gutters. Especially along the strip. My understanding is that the lawsuit brought by the Trump administration in Nevada wants to prove that this type of mass mailing of ballots leads to systemic voter fraud across multiple states. This is how it may end up at the SC.

This is what happened in CA in 2018 (where ballot harvesting is legal) when multiple candidates for the House who 'won' their elections were later told they had lost. One rep. was even sworn in before being told they had lost. There was no push back on this so it continues. It is also what was happening to Scott and DeSantis in 2018. As the evening wore on, boxes of ballots were being found under desks, in car trunks, etc. in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. DeSantis cleaned this up, which was instrumental in FL having such a successful uncontested election in 2020.

It does not matter what party you belong to. Every citizen should be concerned and want fair elections with integrity. If they can commit fraud this election, then they can commit fraud in another election. That goes for either party. Remember the recent case in NC where a Republican was committing fraud and the whole election result was thrown out and the election held again. The American people have lost so much faith in their institutions and if they lose faith in the integrity of our elections, that is of great importance to us as a nation. We should all stand together and reject any voter fraud because it is not a partisan issue.

If Americans have "lost faith" it is almost entirely caused by false claims (like yours) of voter fraud. In the end, truth will conquer all the BS claims.