[Erider]

https://archive.is/2023.06.10-172049...rica-qhjwwwvm0

This is in the Sunday Times UK but is behind a paywall. I found the article at this archival site where you can read it for free.

You will probably see more about this in US media once they figure out how to reverse course.

Read the entire article before commenting.

[Erider]

Chinese military created COVID?

Another article about this

Chinese military created Covid? Here's what a bombshell report says - BusinessToday

[Two Bills]

A long, interesting, and well presented piece.
Very plausible, but is it the full story, let alone the truth?
The only thing about the story that I am sure about, is no one will never know the absolute facts of what happened.
I once believed in the Tooth Fairy, Jack and the Beanstalk, and that our local elected politico had my best interests at heart.
However, I now view most news reports/statements with a huge amount skepticism, simply because integrity and truth are no longer a priority in news reporting, or public service.
If of course they ever were!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

A long, interesting, and well presented piece.
Very plausible, but is it the full story, let alone the truth?
The only thing about the story that I am sure about, is no one will never know the absolute facts of what happened.
I once believed in the Tooth Fairy, Jack and the Beanstalk, and that our local elected politico had my best interests at heart.
However, I now view most news reports/statements with a huge amount skepticism, simply because integrity and truth are no longer a priority in news reporting, or public service.
If of course they ever were!

No truer words ever written.

[Stu from NYC]

I suspect our govt knows and is withholding the info to prevent a nuclear war.

[Byte1]

Most likely, the virus was created in a lab at Ft.Detrick, MD. and then shipped to China for further development. Don't forget how FT. D. was involved in the anthrax threat. Remember, the U.S. paid the WuHan lab to perform gain of function testing on COVID. If we were so adamant about China being so instrumental in the world crisis of the virus, why are we so timid in regards to blaming them for it? Perhaps, we are afraid of what might be revealed? Just a few thoughts, OR perhaps a conspiracy theory.

[eyc234]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

A long, interesting, and well presented piece.
Very plausible, but is it the full story, let alone the truth?
The only thing about the story that I am sure about, is no one will never know the absolute facts of what happened.
I once believed in the Tooth Fairy, Jack and the Beanstalk, and that our local elected politico had my best interests at heart.
However, I now view most news reports/statements with a huge amount skepticism, simply because integrity and truth are no longer a priority in news reporting, or public service.
If of course they ever were!

[Battlebasset]

Remember the OJ trial? There were two camps. One said "Of course he did it". The other said, for mostly political reasons, that he didn't do it.

Fast forward 30 years. You won't find anyone that says OJ didn't do it. At least not any thinking, honest person.

Just like in 30 years (or less) you won't find anyone that says COVID didn't originate in the CCP Wuhan lab.

[dougjb]

oooo....just what i like....another conspiracy theory!

I am sure that the powers that be created this and then exposed it to all mankind. Please attach your favorite politician's, technocrat's, or physician's or researcher's or military leader's name as the person responsible for creating covid. I am sure they did it...without involving anyone else. Afterall, do not think of the hundreds or thousands of others who might have to be involved to have such a heinous thing thrust upon the world. I am sure you are absolutely sure that these hundreds or thousands of others have remained tight lipped about this. Isn't that what underlies broad ranging conspiracies. It is always "them" that did it!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by dougjb

oooo....just what i like....another conspiracy theory!

I am sure that the powers that be created this and then exposed it to all mankind. Please attach your favorite politician's, technocrat's, or physician's or researcher's or military leader's name as the person responsible for creating covid. I am sure they did it...without involving anyone else. Afterall, do not think of the hundreds or thousands of others who might have to be involved to have such a heinous thing thrust upon the world. I am sure you are absolutely sure that these hundreds or thousands of others have remained tight lipped about this. Isn't that what underlies broad ranging conspiracies. It is always "them" that did it!

Area 51 is real explains a lot

[Blackbird45]

Besides this really being a game of where it came from does it really matter. All that matters is how many people died and have we found a way to control it. Any country that has the money and the technology is playing around with this including our own.

[Ellwoodrick]

We can only hope and pray we don’t die by our own hand! There will always be those that think they are smart enough to outsmart the random mayhem of accidents.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Erider

https://archive.is/2023.06.10-172049...rica-qhjwwwvm0

This is in the Sunday Times UK but is behind a paywall. I found the article at this archival site where you can read it for free.

You will probably see more about this in US media once they figure out how to reverse course.

Read the entire article before commenting.

Interesting. Thanks for posting this. The link seems to be a screen capture of an article from last Sunday’s “Sunday Times” in the UK. You can’t see the original without paying. The Sunday Times is considered prestigious and quite reliable, despite being owned by NewsCorp, that is, by Rupert Murdock.

The article is in line with what millions of us have suspected about the rise of Covid-19 in China. It outlines the weaponization of the virus by the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the viral research institute of the People’s Liberation Army. The release seems to have been accidental, but the lab was in the process of developing a vaccine that could be given all over China before releasing the virus elsewhere. Can you imagine what would have happened if it were released deliberately and simultaneously around the world? What happened was bad enough. What if China had the only working vaccine (instead of one that didn’t work well)? What would countries do to get access to the vaccine, at least for leaders?

The problem is that a big US government report was issued a couple months ago about this, and the article goes way beyond what the report says. Also, I haven’t seen a reference to this article in the New York Times, and I would have expected a big one. Thus, I’d say this might be right, but I’m withholding full acceptance until I read more corroboration from other reliable sources. However, this gives a fair account of the extent of involvement of the NIH and a US non-profit doing research on the problem. Legitimate research and funding, but then the Chinese went too far in their research and the Chinese military got involved and covered things up.

But do read this!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

Besides this really being a game of where it came from does it really matter. All that matters is how many people died and have we found a way to control it. Any country that has the money and the technology is playing around with this including our own.

It sure matters to me. The epidemic killed many people and disrupted all our lives.

Should see light of day and perhaps this will not happen again.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

Besides this really being a game of where it came from does it really matter. All that matters is how many people died and have we found a way to control it. Any country that has the money and the technology is playing around with this including our own.

Of course it matters. Not only was there a virus enhanced in a Chinese lab that killed millions, US tax dollars were supporting it.