[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

So doing something even if it accomplishes nothing is good? As I keep saying, create jobs for people, that requires more effort than just writing a check to a charity to make you feel good because you did "something".

You don't know if these initiatives did "nothing." In fact, it's possible that some of these programs helped underprivileged children achieve better lives.
I understand that creating jobs and helping create successful businesses is the right thing to do.
But you can't dismiss the effort focused on lifting underprivileged children out of poverty and making them successful, contributing members of society. If there is some success... it's a good thing.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

You don't know if these initiatives did "nothing." In fact, it's possible that some of these programs helped underprivileged children achieve better lives.

I understand that creating jobs and helping create successful businesses is the right thing to do.

But you can't dismiss the effort focused on lifting underprivileged children out of poverty and making them successful, contributing members of society. If there is some success... it's a good thing.

Excellent points.



Honey.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

I actually believe that there are many black athletes, black people in the entertainment industry (Oprah and Tyler Perry come to mind) and wealthy black businessmen that contribute a lot of money to poor communities. I know there are some great stories...

My parents had nothing when they got married. (We are white not black). My dad worked numerous jobs, some of them back breaking work, and supported his family without charity. He managed to also attend a local community college and take courses to get the skills he needed. It was an insult to him if someone tried to offer him money or free things. He was a proud hard working man and he and my mom are reaping the rewards of all his hard work in their later years now. My point? Get out, get a job. Theres plenty out there if youre not too good to get your hands dirty. Charity is meant for the sick n elderly. Not able bodied people who are too lazy and think the world owes them a living.

[Miguel 1952]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

My parents had nothing when they got married. (We are white not black). My dad worked numerous jobs, some of them back breaking work, and supported his family without charity. He managed to also attend a local community college and take courses to get the skills he needed. It was an insult to him if someone tried to offer him money or free things. He was a proud hard working man and he and my mom are reaping the rewards of all his hard work in their later years now. My point? Get out, get a job. Theres plenty out there if youre not too good to get your hands dirty. Charity is meant for the sick n elderly. Not able bodied people who are too lazy and think the world owes them a living.

Very well said! Get out, get a job, save your money!

[gregcharlesnelson@gmail]

How many blacks in TV? I see a couple in my water classes, but not many...I'm from North Dakota

[LoisR]

Did your dad "fit in" with the neighbors or did his appearance or name make him stand apart?
Last time I attended, and later taught at a community college, the tuition was significantly less than at a four year college, mainly due to local and state financial support. Many someones helped pay his tuition. Did you forget that? Did he also "fit in" where he worked? Just imagine if he didn't.
Try walking a mile is someone else's shoes. Funny how old proverbs still work. Sad how old biases are still with us.

[dunmyer]

You could add Magic Johnson to the list. Oprah Winfrey. I think the list is rather large. The main stream. Media just shows the decadent thats why you don’t hear too much about all the good people do.

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Just A Partial List (click here)

[unclerandy]

When we ask "What can I do?", then problems get solved.

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

One of the guys on shark tank (black fellow cannot think of his name right now) does help entrepreneurs succeed.

Daymond Garfield John

[Kms1506]

How do you know how people donate their money. Why do you point out black people. How about all people.

[J1ceasar]

There are plenty of Charities that are involved in job training and education so get off your high horse please Goodwill is one of them name atop one

[J1ceasar]

Also there was a very large initiative her education in Newark New Jersey with a double the money spent for the school system $28,000 child. But honestly I haven't seen the results and I doubt it's really helped

[Number 10 GI]

Obviously you lack even a modicum of intelligence to understand what I said. Yes I watch Fox, and NBC, CBS, ABC, and read articles from all the other online news sources. Do you watch anything except CNN and MSN? Apparently not.

[J1ceasar]

For the last 50 years we have spent about 50 billion dollars on welfare . for the last 50 years poverty has not moved one percentage point. I think it's time to rethink all the money spends. My suggestion is if you want to get married or have a family or give birth you have to have 12 months of Education about raising children. Secondly we spend roughly a quarter million dollars per child for education and yet most kids in poor neighborhoods don't graduate I think we need a law that says simply if you don't get at least a b average in school and graduate high school you're not entitled to any welfare or food stamps the rest of your life. Leslie I think the parents of little children must have at least a high school education before giving birth you need to have pregnancy control in the water no matter what religious organizations say this is cool tough love and obviously I'm being extremely ridiculous in my opinions just like Gulliver's Travels was. But the reality is you can't help those that don't want to help themselves you have 50 years of dependency on the government and it has to stop. In the US we have something many countries still can't do pull free education 13 years of it. And then we have community colleges Witcher dirt cheap and you can get loans for if you don't pull yourself up nobody will do it for you

[Strongel]

There is a line between judgment and discernment, one is much more harsh. Yet, there was a time when communities helped others in their communities much more than today. Churches and other groups raised money to helped those in need. It wasn’t perfect, some were left out but it was more direct, more personal and upfront than today. Now many just say to let “the government” look after them. The government (although us) is impersonal. We used to see need and felt the twinge of compassion and love to reach out and help, Now we see videos of hunger and need and think the money won’t reach them. It will get caught up in red tape, confiscated by the organization and only a pittance get through. Organizations have done much good, government has helped many. They have also distanced us. I’m trying not to judge who does what like blacks helping blacks in the first post but make sense. I do have an opinion. I don’t want to become complacent and ignore need, I also do not want big government handing out money Willy Nilly creating dependence. Once dependent they can just threaten to withhold the check if you don’t obey. In short, we need both, small government for a safety net only and tons of personal compassion for everyone.