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daca55 06-16-2020 07:33 AM
I don’t think the spikes are due to the protests. I have been keeping track of the numbers since the middle of May and they have been going up daily. With the protests and with more things opening the number of daily cases has nearly doubled. Let’s face it the virus is still with us and to go back our old normal life won’t happen until we have a vaccine. Norge mean time wash your hands and wear a mask.

Pamelah 06-16-2020 07:35 AM
There has been a great deal more testing so of course the numbers will soar. Equally important or more so is the number of hospitalizations yet that’s often not reported.

JulieER 06-16-2020 07:41 AM
Not really amazing. The media covers current events on a larger scale.

GoodLife 06-16-2020 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by daca55 (Post 1785092)
I don’t think the spikes are due to the protests. I have been keeping track of the numbers since the middle of May and they have been going up daily. With the protests and with more things opening the number of daily cases has nearly doubled. Let’s face it the virus is still with us and to go back our old normal life won’t happen until we have a vaccine. Norge mean time wash your hands and wear a mask.
Maybe you need to keep better track of the numbers. New cases were falling thru most of May, a few upticks in June followed by a large spike June 12 thru 15.

Florida Coronavirus Cases Per Day

bmit16 06-16-2020 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1784858)
Incubation period is UP TO 14 days. The George Floyd protests didn't occur "up to 14 days" ago. Also, those counties have had the most cases from the beginning, this is just more of the same.

In addition, it was around the same period of time (up to 14 days ago) that the Governor relaxed restrictions on staying home.

I'm sure the protests contributed to the added cases. But there would've been a new wave of cases, ESPECIALLY in the above-mentioned counties, even if there were no protests.


14 days is the max incubation time. George Floyd died on May 25th Memorial day. The protest started the next night May 26th. The op said the spikes started occuring around June 12th That is 18 days after the protest. The protest got more intense in the days following his death and are still going. I would say it is reasonable to assume the protest are playing a much bigger part than people want to admit.

wiltma 06-16-2020 07:59 AM
Fake numbers
 
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1784849)
Appears we have a spike in cases here in Florida. So I took a look at the Florida Dashboard county report to see where it's happening. The spike started on June 12.

Almost 70% of the new cases on June 12 came from 7 counties with Dade, Palm Beach, Broward, Hillsborough, and Orange counties racking up the highest numbers.

The average time from exposure to symptoms of covid 19 is 5-6 days. Huge protests for George Floyd took place on the weekend of June 5-6, and some of the largest ones were in these counties. Although it is harder to catch the virus outdoors, epidemiologists say that chanting and screaming expel more virus, exactly what happens in protests. They were packed together pretty tight in the larger protests.

Sumter County had no protests, and have had only 5 new cases in the last 9 days.
Marion County did have a protest, not thousands but several hundred, and they had a mini spike of 10 cases on June 12.

It's kind of funny that we still can't have fans at golf tournaments but many officials and even health departments gave their blessing to the protests, saying it was "too important"

Most of the media will try to blame reopening too early as cause of the spike, it was amazing how they switched from covid 19 24/7 to George Floyd 24/7

You can take a look at the Florida county data here:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf
Florida is hiding much of its numbers so probably x10

Byte1 06-16-2020 08:00 AM
Interesting. Someone produces facts and a theory that is supported by the facts and deniers it can't be so. I have also been watching the numbers for Sumter Co. and noticed that they had leveled off for a couple of weeks. The point being made was that areas with demonstrations had a spike in infected numbers. Whether or not you wish to see the correlation is a matter of your personal choice. Personally, I think the demonstrations are stupid and dangerous. The gov. is being overly lenient on these folks, no doubt due to it being an election year. Yes, my opinion.

GoodLife 06-16-2020 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1785130)
Interesting. Someone produces facts and a theory that is supported by the facts and deniers it can't be so. I have also been watching the numbers for Sumter Co. and noticed that they had leveled off for a couple of weeks. The point being made was that areas with demonstrations had a spike in infected numbers. Whether or not you wish to see the correlation is a matter of your personal choice. Personally, I think the demonstrations are stupid and dangerous. The gov. is being overly lenient on these folks, no doubt due to it being an election year. Yes, my opinion.
Some would rather blame the spike in cases on reopening. The fact that they can say protests of millions chanting and screaming while shoulder to shoulder is just fine while fans at golf tournaments or church services in a parking lot are dangerous is pretty comical.

Rich42 06-16-2020 08:11 AM
Apparently OB Baby doesn't understand what "up to" means!

kdholliday1004 06-16-2020 08:17 AM
Once you have been tested you will not be recommending regular testing. Will go down was one of the worst 10 seconds of my life. Very uncomfortable. I will not do it again.

ldivens 06-16-2020 08:29 AM
The Governor needs to shut it down. I am writing him today and encourage all responsible citizens to do the same

psoccermom 06-16-2020 08:29 AM
Jerry Deming, mayor of Orlando, said that contact tracing showed their spike was coming from bars and night clubs.

Eg_cruz 06-16-2020 08:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1784849)
Appears we have a spike in cases here in Florida. So I took a look at the Florida Dashboard county report to see where it's happening. The spike started on June 12.

Almost 70% of the new cases on June 12 came from 7 counties with Dade, Palm Beach, Broward, Hillsborough, and Orange counties racking up the highest numbers.

The average time from exposure to symptoms of covid 19 is 5-6 days. Huge protests for George Floyd took place on the weekend of June 5-6, and some of the largest ones were in these counties. Although it is harder to catch the virus outdoors, epidemiologists say that chanting and screaming expel more virus, exactly what happens in protests. They were packed together pretty tight in the larger protests.

Sumter County had no protests, and have had only 5 new cases in the last 9 days.
Marion County did have a protest, not thousands but several hundred, and they had a mini spike of 10 cases on June 12.

It's kind of funny that we still can't have fans at golf tournaments but many officials and even health departments gave their blessing to the protests, saying it was "too important"

Most of the media will try to blame reopening too early as cause of the spike, it was amazing how they switched from covid 19 24/7 to George Floyd 24/7

You can take a look at the Florida county data here:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf
I looked back at Memorial day weekend. Where those countries don’t practice social distancing. The beaches were packed which in turn the restaurant and stores were. People had big parties at their homes with no regards to safety.

aldeana 06-16-2020 08:38 AM
The CVS website advertises that they offer "no cost" testing. Don't know if a doc's referral is needed. Check it out if you feel a need for testing.

GoodLife 06-16-2020 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by psoccermom (Post 1785177)
Jerry Deming, mayor of Orlando, said that contact tracing showed their spike was coming from bars and night clubs.
A few dozen out of the several hundred COVID 19 cases from the past week point directly back to bars and nightclubs

Bar Owner: Social Distancing in a Bar a Recipe for Disaster


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