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GoodLife 06-16-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1785343)
The difference is they can't control the protests of milllions chanting and screaming while shoulder to shoulder without doing something wrong and appear on every news media across the country. Not having fans at private events can be controlled and when covered it's seen as a positive and prudent move by the owners and organizers. Same with churches although some are now optionally inside with spacing. Apples and oranges but I guess lumping everything together makes it easier huh? Our facts and perspective is only learded through hindsight with this sucker....everything looking forward is mostly speculation. The only thing we do know is that the only cure today is our immunce system and I'm not so sure I want mine to be the only line of defense.

So you're saying that they can't control protests of millions because they would be "doing something wrong" but they can control fans at golf, churches etc because that is seen as "positive and wise"

That sums it up perfectly.

jimjamuser 06-16-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1784878)
A concern I have is whether we really know how many Covid-19 case there are in the Villages. Absent of broad testing we really don't know the percentages of the number of cases vs total population. Without proper testing we have no knowledge as to how many residents are asymptomatic and should be in any statistics? The question then is why we don't have broad testing within the villages. Not a few days on the Polo Fields or in Leesburg but regular on going testing in the villages. I mentioned this concern to a friend and the responses was "what impact do you think it would have on the sale of homes if it was advertised there were increases in the Virus in the Villages"? That was the first and most sensible answer I have received. Given the average resident is within the high risk group it did not make any sense to not have regular serious testing within the Villages!! We have elected to keep the current rules as the way to go until there are more realiable numbers regarding the percentages and exposures we face. As an aside I know at least one Medical Group will test if
you qualify to be tested. That is not what I mean. I mean regular broad testing by the Government, etc. for this high risk area.

Good post. Call for more PPEs and testing by cranking up the Defense Protection Act.

wayneman 06-16-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1784878)
A concern I have is whether we really know how many Covid-19 case there are in the Villages. Absent of broad testing we really don't know the percentages of the number of cases vs total population. Without proper testing we have no knowledge as to how many residents are asymptomatic and should be in any statistics? The question then is why we don't have broad testing within the villages. Not a few days on the Polo Fields or in Leesburg but regular on going testing in the villages. I mentioned this concern to a friend and the responses was "what impact do you think it would have on the sale of homes if it was advertised there were increases in the Virus in the Villages"? That was the first and most sensible answer I have received. Given the average resident is within the high risk group it did not make any sense to not have regular serious testing within the Villages!! We have elected to keep the current rules as the way to go until there are more realiable numbers regarding the percentages and exposures we face. As an aside I know at least one Medical Group will test if
you qualify to be tested. That is not what I mean. I mean regular broad testing by the Government, etc. for this high risk area.

The answer to your question is M O N E Y. Who is going to pay for all the tests. It's the same reason employees of hospitals no longer get tested unless they become symptomatic. Even if they have been directly exposed. No one wants the burden of paying for the test. And more importantly, we need way more antibody tests.

Alto2548 06-16-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardarlowe (Post 1785024)
Can't have a funeral but by all means a protest is acceptable. Comical.

Not to mention several memorials and a funeral

Alto2548 06-16-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ldivens (Post 1785171)
The Governor needs to shut it down. I am writing him today and encourage all responsible citizens to do the same

That's just crazy talk. The shut down's sole purpose was to FLATTEN THE CURVE to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. NOT TO ERADICATE THE VIRUS.

Sorry for using all caps, but getting facts thru to all the "Karens" out there is extremely frustrating.

donassaid 06-16-2020 01:50 PM

You are spot on.

queasy27 06-16-2020 02:01 PM

Even if tests were being done at no charge 12 hours a day at every postal station, I still wouldn't bother unless I had symptoms.

It's a constant game of whack-a-mole. Guidelines for restarting TV and film productions call for performers/actors to be tested a minimum of three times a week and other office/BTS staff once a week.

ALadysMom 06-16-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1784858)
Incubation period is UP TO 14 days. The George Floyd protests didn't occur "up to 14 days" ago. Also, those counties have had the most cases from the beginning, this is just more of the same.

In addition, it was around the same period of time (up to 14 days ago) that the Governor relaxed restrictions on staying home.

I'm sure the protests contributed to the added cases. But there would've been a new wave of cases, ESPECIALLY in the above-mentioned counties, even if there were no protests.

...And the protests were an “essential activity!” Right?

nututv 06-16-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1785491)
...And the protests were an “essential activity!” Right?

You would be a racist if you thought otherwise. lol

ALadysMom 06-16-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1784878)
A concern I have is whether we really know how many Covid-19 case there are in the Villages. Absent of broad testing we really don't know the percentages of the number of cases vs total population. Without proper testing we have no knowledge as to how many residents are asymptomatic and should be in any statistics? The question then is why we don't have broad testing within the villages. Not a few days on the Polo Fields or in Leesburg but regular on going testing in the villages. I mentioned this concern to a friend and the responses was "what impact do you think it would have on the sale of homes if it was advertised there were increases in the Virus in the Villages"? That was the first and most sensible answer I have received. Given the average resident is within the high risk group it did not make any sense to not have regular serious testing within the Villages!! We have elected to keep the current rules as the way to go until there are more realiable numbers regarding the percentages and exposures we face. As an aside I know at least one Medical Group will test if
you qualify to be tested. That is not what I mean. I mean regular broad testing by the Government, etc. for this high risk area.

Let me think for a minute...

So each time I test negative I will have suffered an unnecessary injury to the same mucous membranes deep within my nasal cavity which defend against viral invasions for absolutely no reason and I will have gained the knowledge that at that one moment in time I was A-ok but I will have also wasted about half of a day of my life getting each test.

But if I happen to test positive, I win the Grand Prize of being ordered into a 14-day home isolation while I feel fine but also gain some really nosey Government Contact Tracer Bloodhounds (who were probably unemployed waiters previously) to gather & record all of my private & sensitive personal information so they will contact each of my friends, loved ones, fellow shoppers, and dance partners (JK LOL). My private contact records will become indelible, permanent CyberSpace government records. They may not even bother to distinguish between those I may have incidentally crossed paths with from those I had more intentionally encountered—from when until when? And I’m sure my private contact records will forever receive Top Secret security status with NO UNMASKING, right? ;)
And being positive but asymptomatic, I would have not incurred the invasion of my nasal cavity nor the invasion of my privacy if only I spent my lovely day in paradise on happier pursuits.

Of course, if I am positive and symptomatic I get the invasions plus I will be sent home to suffer in isolation unless and until I get sick enough to require help.

But if I get sick, stay home and don’t get tested unless and until I require hospitalization then I will have no choice but to suffer the full impact of the burdens.

Sounds like a whole lot of fun.

How many times do you think I will want to repeat this? And how many kooky paranoid folks will want to repeatedly join me?

It’s no wonder there aren’t hoards of people who are lining up for repeat testing, right? What’s the sage saying? Fool me once...

(BTW I sadly suspect that Saturday Night Live may be missing a wealth of material here! We can either laugh or we can cry.)

PENN, there hasn’t been more testing in TV because there wasn’t a lot of interest (see above ^) and there hasn’t been a lot of need.

shut the front door 06-16-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo2012 (Post 1785083)
I am not certain, but three relatives of mine recently tested positive for antibodies to COVID-19. They were never tested for the virus. They all had mild symptoms and have since recovered. They all received calls from the health department and are now part of the COVID-19 statistics. How many others are in the same situation but no longer contagious? Like I said, I am not certain this is the cause of recent spikes, but it could account for some of the stats.

I have the antibodies and cannot spread the disease. Yet I still get yelled at in public and on this message board for not wearing a mask. All the message board self appointed doctors told me that my doctors are wrong. Not sure what medical school they went to, but they should probably inform the poor victims who are receiving my antibodies. They should also get in touch with the doctors who are giving these antibodies!

ALadysMom 06-16-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by psoccermom (Post 1785177)
Jerry Deming, mayor of Orlando, said that contact tracing showed their spike was coming from bars and night clubs.

And he based that on what? Oh, because bars & nightclubs are where locals go not where the tourists go. His slant is toward the one who spends more $

ALadysMom 06-16-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 1785517)
I have the antibodies and cannot spread the disease. Yet I still get yelled at in public and on this message board for not wearing a mask. All the message board self appointed doctors told me that my doctors are wrong. Not sure what medical school they went to, but they should probably inform the poor victims who are receiving my antibodies. They should also get in touch with the doctors who are giving these antibodies!

Thank you for donating your immunity to help others.

A 20ish yo said she yelled back in retaliation at a busy-body senior while shopping without a mask (* = omitted Expletives) “I don’t have to wear a * mask because my * age group is not the one causing * problems. We * young people need to get out and work to pay for your * Medicare & Social Security. We already gave up weeks of our lives to keep you safe. You * old folks should stay at * home.” The senior retreated in silence.Yikes. Although it’s not fully accurate, I understand the frustration, don’t you? People should be very careful so their nose doesn’t get bit off if they stick it where it doesn’t belong.

ALadysMom 06-16-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardarlowe (Post 1785024)
Can't have a funeral but by all means a protest is acceptable. Comical.

A big ol’ Texas funeral is great as long as it attracts the well-heeled.

ALadysMom 06-16-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wiltma (Post 1785128)
Florida is hiding much of its numbers so probably x10

Unlike some other states like NY, NJ, IL who count fingers & toes as individuals.


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