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shut the front door 06-16-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1785529)
Thank you for donating your immunity to help others.

A 20ish yo said she yelled back in retaliation at a busy-body senior while shopping without a mask (* = omitted Expletives) “I don’t have to wear a * mask because my * age group is not the one causing * problems. We * young people need to get out and work to pay for your * Medicare & Social Security. We already gave up weeks of our lives to keep you safe. You * old folks should stay at * home.” The senior retreated in silence.Yikes. Although it’s not fully accurate, I understand the frustration, don’t you? People should be very careful so their nose doesn’t get bit off if they stick it where it doesn’t belong.

People minding their own business will never happen in TV. Just reading this message board or spending a day listening to the calls to community watch will make you shudder. There are literally tens of thousands of Gladys Kravitz here and they will never mind their own business. I just look at them and laugh.

jimjamuser 06-16-2020 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 1785534)
People minding their own business will never happen in TV. Just reading this message board or spending a day listening to the calls to community watch will make you shudder. There are literally tens of thousands of Gladys Kravitz here and they will never mind their own business. I just look at them and laugh.

Who is Gladys Kravitz? And who is John Galt?

jimjamuser 06-16-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wayneman (Post 1785396)
The answer to your question is M O N E Y. Who is going to pay for all the tests. It's the same reason employees of hospitals no longer get tested unless they become symptomatic. Even if they have been directly exposed. No one wants the burden of paying for the test. And more importantly, we need way more antibody tests.

Look at S. Korea or Germany for your answer. They tested quickly and their DPA was put into place to produce all the needed medical equipment. The US fiddled while CV burned. The result they quickly got back their economy and people went to work. We the US of A now leads the world in all the Bad CV stats. We have 15 to 29% unemployment(depending if you count people not trying). And out GNP is toast. Bottom line----better to spend money on tests early. You could say "the early bird avoids the CV".

jimjamuser 06-16-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1785492)
You would be a racist if you thought otherwise. lol

Who is John Galt?

jimjamuser 06-16-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1785513)
Let me think for a minute...

So each time I test negative I will have suffered an unnecessary injury to the same mucous membranes deep within my nasal cavity which defend against viral invasions for absolutely no reason and I will have gained the knowledge that at that one moment in time I was A-ok but I will have also wasted about half of a day of my life getting each test.

But if I happen to test positive, I win the Grand Prize of being ordered into a 14-day home isolation while I feel fine but also gain some really nosey Government Contact Tracer Bloodhounds (who were probably unemployed waiters previously) to gather & record all of my private & sensitive personal information so they will contact each of my friends, loved ones, fellow shoppers, and dance partners (JK LOL). My private contact records will become indelible, permanent CyberSpace government records. They may not even bother to distinguish between those I may have incidentally crossed paths with from those I had more intentionally encountered—from when until when? And I’m sure my private contact records will forever receive Top Secret security status with NO UNMASKING, right? ;)
And being positive but asymptomatic, I would have not incurred the invasion of my nasal cavity nor the invasion of my privacy if only I spent my lovely day in paradise on happier pursuits.

Of course, if I am positive and symptomatic I get the invasions plus I will be sent home to suffer in isolation unless and until I get sick enough to require help.

But if I get sick, stay home and don’t get tested unless and until I require hospitalization then I will have no choice but to suffer the full impact of the burdens.

Sounds like a whole lot of fun.

How many times do you think I will want to repeat this? And how many kooky paranoid folks will want to repeatedly join me?

It’s no wonder there aren’t hoards of people who are lining up for repeat testing, right? What’s the sage saying? Fool me once...

(BTW I sadly suspect that Saturday Night Live may be missing a wealth of material here! We can either laugh or we can cry.)

PENN, there hasn’t been more testing in TV because there wasn’t a lot of interest (see above ^) and there hasn’t been a lot of need.

That's a lot of "ifs and buts". By the way, who is John Galt?

jimjamuser 06-16-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 1785517)
I have the antibodies and cannot spread the disease. Yet I still get yelled at in public and on this message board for not wearing a mask. All the message board self appointed doctors told me that my doctors are wrong. Not sure what medical school they went to, but they should probably inform the poor victims who are receiving my antibodies. They should also get in touch with the doctors who are giving these antibodies!

A gray area. Recent studies suggest that even people with antibodies MAY? give off SOME? CV to others. And the CV MAY? have mutated in Beijing?

sloanst 06-16-2020 07:41 PM

The protesters, rioters and looters where numerous, uncontrollable and have little respect for the law. Golfers simply don't fall into that category.

Villagerjjm 06-16-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1784913)
This has been going on for more than 2 months. Most people in TV are 65 plus and if they get so much as the sniffles, they are going to get tested. If there was a large scale infection of Villagers we would know about it by now.

That's great!! Tell me exactly... where are those tests available?

TomPerrett 06-16-2020 08:20 PM

The only problem with your report is that the the time between exposure and symptoms of COVID 19 is 12 to 14 days not 5 to 10 days.
But of course you can’t attribute the spike to the protest if you deal with the facts. Fiction is good though.

NoMoSno 06-16-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagerjjm (Post 1785619)
That's great!! Tell me exactly... where are those tests available?

Quest, CVS, call your doctor.

nututv 06-16-2020 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1785568)
Who is John Galt?

I'll bet Google knows. lol
Who is John Galt - Google Search

nututv 06-16-2020 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1785570)
A gray area. Recent studies suggest that even people with antibodies MAY? give off SOME? CV to others. And the CV MAY? have mutated in Beijing?

That's a lot of "MAY's and one some". By the way, who is John Galt?

Topspinmo 06-16-2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1784849)
Appears we have a spike in cases here in Florida. So I took a look at the Florida Dashboard county report to see where it's happening. The spike started on June 12.

Almost 70% of the new cases on June 12 came from 7 counties with Dade, Palm Beach, Broward, Hillsborough, and Orange counties racking up the highest numbers.

The average time from exposure to symptoms of covid 19 is 5-6 days. Huge protests for George Floyd took place on the weekend of June 5-6, and some of the largest ones were in these counties. Although it is harder to catch the virus outdoors, epidemiologists say that chanting and screaming expel more virus, exactly what happens in protests. They were packed together pretty tight in the larger protests.

Sumter County had no protests, and have had only 5 new cases in the last 9 days.
Marion County did have a protest, not thousands but several hundred, and they had a mini spike of 10 cases on June 12.

It's kind of funny that we still can't have fans at golf tournaments but many officials and even health departments gave their blessing to the protests, saying it was "too important"

Most of the media will try to blame reopening too early as cause of the spike, it was amazing how they switched from covid 19 24/7 to George Floyd 24/7

You can take a look at the Florida county data here:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf

Traveler's most likely? don't worry they will be switching back to virus. what they do.

Topspinmo 06-16-2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ldivens (Post 1785171)
The Governor needs to shut it down. I am writing him today and encourage all responsible citizens to do the same

Dream on, there will be no second shut down of the country. pockets maybe. people HAVE to get back to work.

Topspinmo 06-16-2020 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1784878)
A concern I have is whether we really know how many Covid-19 case there are in the Villages. Absent of broad testing we really don't know the percentages of the number of cases vs total population. Without proper testing we have no knowledge as to how many residents are asymptomatic and should be in any statistics? The question then is why we don't have broad testing within the villages. Not a few days on the Polo Fields or in Leesburg but regular on going testing in the villages. I mentioned this concern to a friend and the responses was "what impact do you think it would have on the sale of homes if it was advertised there were increases in the Virus in the Villages"? That was the first and most sensible answer I have received. Given the average resident is within the high risk group it did not make any sense to not have regular serious testing within the Villages!! We have elected to keep the current rules as the way to go until there are more realiable numbers regarding the percentages and exposures we face. As an aside I know at least one Medical Group will test if
you qualify to be tested. That is not what I mean. I mean regular broad testing by the Government, etc. for this high risk area.

you can get tested about anywhere, But wait for it----------------------------------------------------------------------------you may have to paid for it! So, testing not problem unless you expect freebee, then you will have to travel.


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