[billethkid]

Far too many folks in FL as demonstrated here in TV completely ignore two of the three actions "recommended" during the pandemic.

Wear a face mask and keep social distancing.
Hopefully most of them honor the hand washing and sanitizing.

My guess, less than 50% of us are following the guidelines.

With the spiking that is occurring and the commitment to not shut down again.....is it inevitable that masks will be made mandatory in public?
Enforcement of social distancing?

One need only to observe any venue here in TV and observe the rampant, wholesale non compliance.

It is the obvious next play for the governor.

Or he concludes most Floridians are opting to roll the dice on whether they get the virus or not. Their attitude......must be if they die they die.

However some of us do not think they should be putting us at that risk.

I am sure the usual mask flak will follow.
But instead how about offering suggestions how tho help keep the virus from spreading.

[davem4616]

we saw the same thing up on Ocala's Paddock Mall last week....half the people were walking around in the store with masks and half didn't have a mask...like covid-19 had never crossed their radar

duh? It was a mixture of folks that should have known better and money wasn't an issue... and people at the lower end of the economy that maybe money was an issue

guess we'll continue to do as much of the little non grocery shopping that we do online

[JoMar]

Just watched the Governors Roundtable today. So far he has no desire to enforce, his solution is education through PSA's, even though the under 40 are testing positive but not showing symptoms he isn't concerned. Even Orange County that declared a mandatory mask policy won't enforce. Take care of yourself because there are a lot of non-believers, it's only the flu, staying home is crazy people out there and you are the only one that can take care of you.

[Number 10 GI]

There is an effective deterrent to being infected, stay at home. You can have food and medicine delivered to your house. You don't have to leave your home for anything. If other people become infected it won't impact you.

[billethkid]

When the governor does not take a position and let's it be up to the individual to decide with education. That seems to be his default position. It is nothing more than decision making avoidance....perhaps even allowing deniability.

Using that logic we could do away with enforcing speed limits and leave it up to the individuals, with education, to make the right decision.

I laugh.....based on observation, even with speed limit LAWS....most folks go as fast as they want anyway.

So good luck gov educating the masses and having it work!!

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Just watched the Governors Roundtable today. So far he has no desire to enforce, his solution is education through PSA's, even though the under 40 are testing positive but not showing symptoms he isn't concerned. Even Orange County that declared a mandatory mask policy won't enforce. Take care of yourself because there are a lot of non-believers, it's only the flu, staying home is crazy people out there and you are the only one that can take care of you.

"non believers, it's only the flu"

If you are less than 50 years old, covid 19 is not just "only the flu" its way way less than the flu in terms of death rates. CDC puts overall death rate for all ages of the flu at 0.1 percent. CDC puts death rate for covid 19 for under 50 years old at 0.05% 70% of covid positive people under 60 are ASYMPTOMATIC and never get sick.

Do you understand the difference in those two death rates? You are not going to convince people that have a better chance of dying in a car wreck to wear a mask all the time. The world does not revolve around us oldsters. The best way for us old fogies to protect ourselves is stay home, participate in safe outdoor activities, and maintain social distances. It's safer if we do not participate in the great reopening and ridiculous to demand the whole world wear masks.

My rule is I don't enter any buildings other than home, curbside pickup of groceries and online delivery for everything else. I do have some in person DR appts but not until September. I play golf, swim, walk, ride bicycle etc and talk to my neighbors at a safe distance. I'd like to go out to eat, have a drink at a bar etc. I was supposed to be in Scotland this summer and play golf out of the heat, but I can do it next year. I can continue in this mode for quite some time and enjoy life while being safe. I don't think its fair to ask everyone to wear masks when the danger for them is so miniscule.

[Paper1]

Individual rights are wonderful but that said wearing masks in public places should be mandatory. I think it was Dr Spock that said "Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". I wonder how many deaths and $200,000 taxpayer funded hospital bills might have been avoided if Governors had showed a little courage and said wear the damn masks or stay home?

[nututv]

The herd needs thinning.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

"non believers, it's only the flu"

If you are less than 50 years old, covid 19 is not just "only the flu" its way way less than the flu in terms of death rates. CDC puts overall death rate for all ages of the flu at 0.1 percent. CDC puts death rate for covid 19 for under 50 years old at 0.05% 70% of covid positive people under 60 are ASYMPTOMATIC and never get sick.

Do you understand the difference in those two death rates? You are not going to convince people that have a better chance of dying in a car wreck to wear a mask all the time. The world does not revolve around us oldsters. The best way for us old fogies to protect ourselves is stay home, participate in safe outdoor activities, and maintain social distances. It's safer if we do not participate in the great reopening and ridiculous to demand the whole world wear masks.

My rule is I don't enter any buildings other than home, curbside pickup of groceries and online delivery for everything else. I do have some in person DR appts but not until September. I play golf, swim, walk, ride bicycle etc and talk to my neighbors at a safe distance. I'd like to go out to eat, have a drink at a bar etc. I was supposed to be in Scotland this summer and play golf out of the heat, but I can do it next year. I can continue in this mode for quite some time and enjoy life while being safe. I don't think its fair to ask everyone to wear masks when the danger for them is so miniscule.

Masks don't protect the wearer, they protect other folks including us oldsters. Is it too much to ask everyone to try and protect each other....I guess it is.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I’ve gone to Bonefish and Bluefin 6 times and Carrabba’s twice they are keeping the places safe but no place is perfect. I would suggest that if you go to bathroom put your mask on before you go in , there are people who may be at bar inside or out or people off the street coming in to use bathroom, it’s easy to forget that your seating in restaurant is separated, the bathrooms are not

[PugMom]

good idea, makes sense

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Masks don't protect the wearer, they protect other folks including us oldsters. Is it too much to ask everyone to try and protect each other....I guess it is.

It's quite logical for older people, especially with certain health problems, to be afraid of this virus. The best way to be safe for us is to avoid other people, especially indoors, mask or no mask.

People under 50 have a death rate from this virus less than ordinary flu. So it's logical for them not to be afraid.

The whole mask fiasco started when health authorities first told us they don't work, then switched stance after the peak of pandemic had already been reached. Then, many of the same health authorities blessed massive protests, while still enforcing rules for the rest of us.

[Gpsma]

No mask ever. Not my responsibility to keep u safe. If u are so afraid, dont leave your house. No need to go out, get anything delivered now.

Tired of those that think its my responsibilty to keep them safe

[Bjeanj]

Originally Posted by nututv

The herd needs thinning.

You can go first.

[Nipper]

Has anyone heard that Rohan Rec Center has been closed down because two workers have Covid 19?