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Old 06-01-2020, 01:35 PM
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ALL of Our Ancestors were Immigrants!
They fled their countries for many reasons, war, famine, religious persecution, a chance of a better life, etc. You and your family would not be here had America, Land of the Free, not welcomed you!
The only indigenous peoples are Native American Indians and we pretty well screwed them over and continue to do so as well as other people of color and creed.
Bigotry and racism is well on display.
America needed immigration in the frontier days. Now when AI and advanced Robotics fully hit in about 20 years the US will have a permanent 30 to 40 % unemployment. Problem is politicians do not believe it or plan ahead more than the next election.
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I was indeed taking "educated guesses" on both Canada and Eastern Europe. Okay, fair enough that if Canadians just want nicer weather they can get it as snowbirds without emigrating, but let's look at Eastern Europe, according to your data:

Eastern Europe's population cohort is the second smallest of four, but yet they account for the highest share of total EU emigration to the US.
Irrelevant. Eastern Europe's percentage of total EU immigrants to USA is 33%. The rest come from other areas. That's not "most"
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We were all immigrants to this country except the native Indians! This is what made our country great!!
The US WAS the top country in quality of life from the end of WWII until about 1975 when the slide began. Some have not noticed the sliding board we are all on. All great civilizations have a peak and a slide.
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Yes we took what we wanted --- took the Indians land - took the western part of the US from Mex. and yes we took Fla. We gave the Indians Nothing but disease..We used the slave to make America great
True that!
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The USA is not the best country - it leads the world in very few indicators of health, wealth or well-being. Watch Jeff Daniels on "Newsroom"
Yes, very true!
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[QUOTE=Bucco;1774833]Seems some must have someone to hate and immigrants are one of the selected. Must make some feel special.[/QUOTE

You are right on.
Racism has been around since the beginning of time, Slavery as well. Slavery still exists in Africa. I m not saying it’s ok but it is unfortunately a part of the human condition.
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Wrong again.

I obviously love this country much more than you (and a whole lot of others), because at least I'm willing to speak up...about making it fair and equal for ALL.
This is the problem. Not everyone will ever agree on what constitutes fair and equal.
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Can we have the Morses ( They'll take the money out of "The Bond" and "the Amenity Fees") to build a huge wall around The Villages!
That gave me a good laugh. Keep up the good work!
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I really hope your not my neighbor!

I agree........
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Sending employers of undocumented workers to prison for a long time, will do more than any other single thing...to stop the problem or allow it in a humane way.

Then watch how many anti-undocumented workers screech and cry... about how much their food and other products have increased.

Thereby requiring even more of these industries to go to countries, where someone makes $15 a day...so as to satisfy the profit demand of their stockholders.


To those who employee undocumented workers, I say...LOCK THEM UP!

Even if that means the flowers here in TV...don't get changed as much.

Best humane solution.
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And millions of those here illegally have fake social security cards, and get legitimate jobs and pay actual real federal income taxes, and social security tax, and medicare tax, and in some cases, state and local income tax as well.

Why do they come? Because they are FROM countries that are even worse than we are. That doesn't make us any good at all. It just means we're not as bad as Venezuela, Panama, parts of Mexico, Columbia, the rest of South America, or Syria or other parts of the world that are war-torn.

America isn't great. It's merely "not as bad" as many other places.
Please explain. Millions of illegal immigrants have a "fake" Social Security card, a legitimate job, and pay taxes to the IRS? I know the IRS is not perfect, but I find it difficult to believe they are that incompetent to ignore millions of bogus taxpayer accounts without question. Are millions of people using someone else's SS account and depositing money into their account for someone else's benefit? Whose address do they use? Or, are the SS numbers just made up and the IRS accepts payments into an account that doesn't exist? And, if the SS number is made up, I doubt that the employer would be sending money to the IRS for deposit into an employee's account that doesn't exist. I think they would just keep the money. I also doubt that an illegal immigrant would be filing a tax return using a fake SS number.
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It's sad that you could not detect the sarcasm dripping from that sentence, even after it has been explained several times in this thread.
And yet another one did not see your sarcasm. Try a different tact next time.
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Hope is irrepressible. Hope is why immigrants braved the ocean and the processing at Ellis Island. Hope is why so many still come, to work and send money to impoverished family in countries of their birth.

Hope is what makes the Statue of Liberty a beacon of promise.

Hope is something we all have in common.... I understand why they continue to come and why in some cases in the face of unequal treatment and dwarfed opportunity people who are challenged by an imperfect system still have hope.....
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And yet another one did not see your sarcasm. Try a different tact next time.
It's try a different tack dear.

"To create or decode sarcasm, both the expressers and recipients of sarcasm need to overcome the contradiction (i.e., psychological distance) between the literal and actual meanings of the sarcastic expressions," said author Francesca Gino. "This is a process that activates and is facilitated by abstraction, which in turn promotes creative thinking."
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No, they have learned that we offer free housing, food stamps and other entitlements, so they are coming in droves.
Does anyone pay attention to our deficit that funds this? Going to be real ugly one day.
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