[phylt]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

Last night in Madison, WI a group of 200 to 300 protesters brought down statues on the grounds of the Capitol.

One of the statues decapitated and dragged into a lake was of Civil War Col. Hans Christian Heg. Heg was an anti-slavery activist and leader of an anti-slave catcher militia in Wisconsin who fought for the Union.

If BLM protesters are vandalizing statues of slave owners, obviously Madison protesters need a history lesson.

Also, Democratic WI State Sen. Tim Carpenter, was assaulted after taking a cellphone video of protesters. "Punched/kicked in the head, neck, ribs," Carpenter tweeted around 4 a.m. "Maybe concussion, socked in left eye is little blurry, sore neck & ribs. 8-10 people attacked me. Innocent people are going to get killed. Stop violence now Plz!"

I'm trying to figure out how any of this is an attempt to further the Black Lives Matter Movement.

These protestors, obviously ignorant of history, are really children needing discipline. And in cases of assault, jail time. Their cause has lost its meaning and become one only of destruction.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009

I did watch that documentary. Which views of mine are you interested in exploring?

Pick one of my views from this and previouscomments.

I support BLM.

I feel this is the most racist community I've ever lived in and have personally heard the N word freely spoken to me on several occasions.

I pointed out a person's post as having a racist remark because they believed the color of person at their door was proof enough that the person was a scammer.

I'm not going to review all of my comments but feel free to do so and I'll defend them. As far as this latest comment, what in particular prompted your assessment that I needed educational assistance?

Which is why I was respectful when I asked you...to watch the documentary.

I'm impressed that you, contrary to so many others around here...took the time to watch it.

What threw me though, after you admirably pointed out racism in a couple of instances...was this.

Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009

I'm not saying they are apart of the blm ...but some people say they are.

I am not a fan of those (particularly at the national level) who often say "people are saying," or "some people say," or "people have told me"...Etc., Etc.

If I misconstrued your intent, then I am not averse (like some of those same folks at the national level) of admitting I was wrong...and proffering my apologies.

[sloanst]

BLM isn't about Black Lives. Perhaps this will help.
YouTube

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

So are you saying it's only the white nationals that are throwing bricks and frozen water bottles at police, and looting and burning down businesses? Or are you saying that a few white nationals start the attack and then a bunch of otherwise peaceful, good-intentioned people are lured into joining in the attack?

I guess then it couldn't be that some of the young people who attend the protest are really there to stir the pot, loot so they can get a bunch of free stuff, and burn down businesses?

It’s not that simple. Each of these mobs contain a variety of people with different reasons for being there. Some actually believe BLM and are there to give voice to hat they believe is tyranny. Others are tyrannical activists who very opportunistically use BLM protests to do their dirty deeds. The BLM protesters are put in harms way by these thugs. The thugs count on the police’s reluctance to harm the BLM protesters. The BLM protesters are serving as “cover” for the thugs.

Any group affiliation or ideology any thug claims is bad and anti-American.

The goal is to dismantle American culture, history and government.

They want socialism and they are willing to force it on us by any means possible.

[sloanst]

Black Lives Matter is a trained Marxist organization. YouTube

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

As an alternative to the Netflix, production of "The 13th", remember the Obama's and Susan Rice are on the BOD of Netflix. look @ Dinesh D'Souza's movie--Hillary Clinton, The Secret History of the Democratic Party

Too bad this movie is available, without having to pay for it

The Obamas are not on the board of directors, and never were. They were courted by Netflix with the opportunity and turned it down. They did, however, sign a production rights deal, after Obama's final term in office. In other words - as a civilian and not as a member of government. Susan Rice was added to the list of the board of directors in 2018 though - after she was removed from government by trump. Again, as a civilian.

If you have a problem with that, create your own streaming network and don't invite either of them to help you generate your profits.

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Which is why I was respectful when I asked you...to watch the documentary.

I'm impressed that you, contrary to so many others around here...took the time to watch it.

What threw me though, after you admirably pointed out racism in a couple of instances...was this.



I am not a fan of those (particularly at the national level) who often say "people are saying," or "some people say," or "people have told me"...Etc., Etc.

If I misconstrued your intent, then I am not averse (like some of those same folks at the national level) of admitting I was wrong...and proffering my apologies.

If you won’t listen to regular folks, then maybe you will listen to FBI Director Wray:

FBI Director Christopher Wray’s Remarks at Press Conference Regarding Civil Unrest in Wake of George Floyd’s Death — FBI

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Sometimes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Sometimes, it is intended as a mirror in hopes one may recognize one's self.
Sometimes, it is used as justification for thoughts or deeds, good or bad. Sometimes.

To all: keep up the good fight (discussions), but fight fair.
There is no one so wise that they can not learn.

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The Obamas are not on the board of directors, and never were. They were courted by Netflix with the opportunity and turned it down. They did, however, sign a production rights deal, after Obama's final term in office. In other words - as a civilian and not as a member of government. Susan Rice was added to the list of the board of directors in 2018 though - after she was removed from government by trump. Again, as a civilian.

If you have a problem with that, create your own streaming network and don't invite either of them to help you generate your profits.

Why do we continue to play right into the thugs’ hands?

They want to DIVIDE & CONQUER.

If you don’t want socialism, then we had all better keep our eyes on the prize.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by ALadysMom

If you won’t listen to regular folks, then maybe you will listen to FBI Director Wray:

FBI Director Christopher Wray’s Remarks at Press Conference Regarding Civil Unrest in Wake of George Floyd’s Death — FBI

Per the link...

Like most of you, I was appalled and profoundly troubled by the video images of the incident that ended with Mr. Floyd’s tragic death.

To be clear, we’re not in any way trying to discourage peaceful protestors. And to those citizens who are out there, making your voices heard through peaceful, lawful protests, let me say this—we in law enforcement hear you.

We have to make sure that our policing and our investigations are conducted with the professionalism and commitment to equal justice that you all deserve.

But we are also committed to identifying, investigating, and stopping individuals who are inciting violence and engaging in criminal activity.

Of which I TOTALLY agree with.

Next?

[ribil]

If any of what you said is true, then why hasn’t the BLM separated themselves from these terrorist infiltrators? Or at a minimum, denounced their participation? Why do they allow themselves to be categorized with the organized anti-American enemies of our country??

[ColdNoMore]

In answer to the OP's question.

THIS is why they're protesting.


Three Cops Fired

‘We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them’: Three cops fired after racist talk of killing black residents

“Wipe ‘em off the f—— map,” Officer Michael “Kevin” Piner said of African Americans. “That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.”

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The Obamas are not on the board of directors, and never were. They were courted by Netflix with the opportunity and turned it down. They did, however, sign a production rights deal, after Obama's final term in office. In other words - as a civilian and not as a member of government. Susan Rice was added to the list of the board of directors in 2018 though - after she was removed from government by trump. Again, as a civilian.

If you have a problem with that, create your own streaming network and don't invite either of them to help you generate your profits.

Why hasn’t EVERY American leader used their voice and power to speak and act against the destructive riots? Why haven’t ALL of them warned the citizens about the real and present danger being posed to our country? Are they in denial or do they hope to benefit, after the dust settles?

The answers are not hidden. They are widely available if you care to understand.

If you don’t believe me, do some research. Listen to the voices of many black leaders who are now bravely warning that BLM and the rioters are extremely dangerous to everyone.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by ALadysMom

Why do we continue to play right into the thugs’ hands?

They want to DIVIDE & CONQUER.

If you don’t want socialism, then we had all better keep our eyes on the prize.

I was responding to Chatbrat's claim and opinion based on that claim. I don't think Chatbrat is a thug. I also don't think Netflix is a thug. I also don't feel that the Obamas or Susan Rice are thugs. I also don't think any of these people/entities are trying to promote socialism.

So I'm confused as to why you are responding to my post with your comment. It doesn't really seem to pertain to anything I said.

Also, I'm a little concerned as to your use of the term "socialism." I'm thinking you might be confusing it with something else. Socialism is a catch-phrase that encompasses several different systems under one umbrella term.

Our medicaid and medicare and social security system and welfare and assistance to the poor are all based on concepts of socialism. They are not "socialist" implementations per se, but that is the system the government used in order to create these programs in the first place. I don't see that as a bad thing.

Conversely, China's methodology of "all business owned by the government" and a singular dictator in charge of deciding who gets to benefit from it, is also borrowed from the socialism system - and we see how much fun THAT is.

The word "socialism," in other words, does not inherently mean something negative nor positive. It is a system that, if it worked and was implemented all at once, would benefit pretty much everyone. Unfortunately it is never implemented all at once, and pieces of it are typically implemented by dictators who have no interest in benefiting everyone. And so socialism, as a whole, is not 100% successful anywhere in the world.

But as concepts go, it's really not a bad one, not something to fear. Dictatorship, fascism, that's something to fear. When you combine fascism with socialism you get China, Laos, and Cuba.

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by ribil

If any of what you said is true, then why hasn’t the BLM separated themselves from these terrorist infiltrators? Or at a minimum, denounced their participation? Why do they allow themselves to be categorized with the organized anti-American enemies of our country??

Good question. Some posts with links earlier in this thread shed light on the truth behind the BLM group. What people think they are, is not what they really are.

Keep asking questions. That’s a very good thing.

We need to pull together & stop bickering with each other. D vs. R won’t matter if we all forced to become socialists. We need to keep our beliefs that can improve our democracy In the future but Immediately stop pandering to BLM because we are playing right into the goals of the thugs.