[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Permanent lung damage is permanent. Permanent heart damage is permanent.

Any statistics/numbers on these?

[drducat]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Permanent lung damage is permanent. Permanent heart damage is permanent.

Why not just take one of the many 100% effective therapeutics ?

Israeli lab: Some existing drugs could stop COVID at almost 100% - The Jerusalem Post

[Kenswing]

One short term side effect is that it causes the same people to post the same thing over and over and over again..

[butlerism]

If I had a Crystal Ball.... I would walk funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

One short term side effect is that it causes the same people to post the same thing over and over and over again..

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Windguy

It’s a matter of weighing the possibility of unknown bad side effects from the vaccine versus the certainty of known bad side effects from the disease.

My thoughts exactly.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Boomer

The virus is hitting young, healthy adults now — hard. They are being hospitalized. Some are dying. They are young and thought they were invincible.

Why can’t these 30, 40, 50 year-olds figure out that if they are vaccinated, they are protecting children — even — and especially — if they do not want their own kids vaccinated?

The more adults vaccinated, the more we protect children and let them get back to normal childhood life, including education alongside other kids — like in the “old days.”

Why are so many young adults unwilling to analyze risk vs. benefit and take the vaccination to insulate their children — who might not be vaccinated? Why can’t they see the compromise in adults taking the vaccine to protect children?

Children do not have a voice. Adults do.

The loss of a child leaves a longterm effect that never goes away — and the loss of a parent for a child leaves a longterm effect, too.

Boomer

This needs to be said again. Thank you Boomer.

Considering the Delta variant is 1000 (ONE THOUSAND) times more transmissible than the original Covid-19 virus, chances are really good that an un-vaccinated person will contract the virus. In fact, I saw one resident physicians on MSM state very confidently that anyone not vaccinated or has not been infected with Covid, WILL contract the Delta variant eventually.

It's a crap shoot. All un-vaccinated folks have to ask themselves, "Will I be a lucky one if I get this virus?"

[tuccillo]

No, that is not what was reported. What was reported is that it is 225% more transmissable (I have not looked into the exact assumptions that went into that number) than the original strain and one study from China showed that infected people have a 1000 times higher average viral load in their respiratory system. That does not mean it is 1000 times more transmissable.

Delta Variant Is On The Rise. Here's How To Stay Safe And Protect Others : Shots - Health News : NPR

Originally Posted by coffeebean

This needs to be said again. Thank you Boomer.

Considering the Delta variant is 1000 (ONE THOUSAND) times more transmissible than the original Covid-19 virus, chances are really good that an un-vaccinated person will contract the virus. In fact, I saw one resident physicians on MSM stated very confidently that anyone not vaccinated or has not been infected with Covid, WILL contract the Delta variant eventually.

It's a crap shoot. All un-vaccinated folks have to ask themselves, "Will I be a lucky one if I get this virus?"

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Wow....that was not what I expected and childish.
I guess the monitors are sleeping....this is not that kind of site

look past the dirty pics & you'll see what the op meant for you to find, lol. (some sites will use anything to earn a click.) on the topic: i am concerned about this spike protein that the shot contains. NIH website compared it to the prion diseases currently known to man. it doesnt sound good. i am still not vaccinated & have no plans to do so. i did however need to take a covid test before being admitted to the hospital, & that came up negative. so yes, there are some like me that can go to so-called super-spreader events, hug, kiss or dance & still not be affected. imo, FEAR is the word.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Byte1

There are about 4,000 species of bees in the U.S. Most bees are harmless, even if they sting you. Should everyone be forced to carry an epipen on them at all times? How many folks receive bee stings per year? How many of those actually die from the bee sting? And yet, almost every year or two we hear on the news of a new species of "killer bee" and all panic starts again.
Before subscribing to the mass hysteria that we continue to be inundated with by the media and politicians, think things out a bit before going off half-cocked.
We cannot know at this time whether or not there will be long term side effects. Most of us received the shots for a reason, many for self preservation and some of us to protect loved ones. It did not matter at the time whether or not there might be side effects. I do not fault those that refused based on their FEAR that there might be side effects. That's why I will not encourage or discourage getting this vaccination. IF the gov starts telling us that the new Delta is dangerous and that we need another shot, I probably will not get it. I see an upcoming election around the corner and I will suspect an alternative motive. Right or wrong in my reasoning, it will be MY choice, not someone else's. I will not accept the premise that we will be wearing masks for the rest of our lives. That is totally unacceptable. If that comes to fruition, then I will demand an investigation as to who might be responsible for this massive use of WMD. There is NO doubt that this pandemic originated in a lab. Accident or not, someone is responsible.
Long term side effects won't matter to most of us. But, how are you going to feel if you push your grandchildren to obtain the vaccination and they later find out that it causes mass sterilization? Just a hypothetical.
Hysteria can cause folks to make hasty and rash choices/decisions with negative results.
Just my opinion.

thank you

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by nhlinda

99.4 per cent of people who contract Covid have a mild case. Only 0.6 per cent get seriously ill. Most of the people who get a serious case have some other contributing factor. Not all, but most. Even with the vaccine, some people get Covid. Big Pharma is trying to convince us that we will get less sick if we have the vaccine, but the chances of getting seriously ill are miniscule as it is. So, don't listen to Chicken Little and do the research.

Just my 2 cents.

COVID Live Update: 192,619,754 Cases and 4,138,445 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

I'm confused. You assert that "Only 0.6 per cent get seriously ill." You post a link to support your assertion. The title of the link provides numbers for cases and deaths. If you plug those numbers into a calculator you get death rate of 2.08%

Does the 0.6% that get seriously ill NOT include those that died first?! Is death not considered a serious illness??

Is it Big Pharma that is trying to convince us of something or is it whatever website you are parroting?

You write, "... and do the research." Did you?

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Byte1

There are about 4,000 species of bees in the U.S. Most bees are harmless, even if they sting you. Should everyone be forced to carry an epipen on them at all times? How many folks receive bee stings per year? How many of those actually die from the bee sting? And yet, almost every year or two we hear on the news of a new species of "killer bee" and all panic starts again.

Just my opinion.

Wow, just wow.

If you get stung by a bee, you may or may not die, but I can guarantee you 100% that if you get stung by a bee it will NOT kill me or my family. Are these two situations in any way different? I guess not - WOW!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Permanent lung damage is permanent. Permanent heart damage is permanent.

Brain damage has been found in young, asymptomatic children from CV.

[worahm]

Originally Posted by Garywt

My 8 years of Chemo has side effects as well but I am still here. Those that have issues down the road, Morgan and Morgan will be around to help.

Maybe not. My son came down with polio symptoms after taking the mandatory polio vaccine on a sugar cube many years ago.

There were days he could not get out of bed. Apparently, the weakened virus he received was not as weak as it was suppose to be. He is 60 years old and still experiences those symptoms.

We were informed he had no legal recourse.

[davem4616]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Wish I had a crystal ball but , alas, I do not. Having said that, this article is very encouraging to all those of us who have been vaccinated with a Covid-19 vaccine.......

How Do We Know the COVID-19 Vaccine Won’t Have Long-Term Side Effects?

I could care less about reading someone's beliefs about the LONG TERM side effects to covid-19 (they could be the same people that said coffee was bad for you, then that butter was bad for you, then that a little red wine was good for you...they're all guessing)...

I'm more concerned about the present side effects of what this thing has done to our lives

I want my life back...I want the movie theatres to open, I want to feel comfortable going into an airport among strangers and sitting on a plane for hours breathing in the same unfiltered air, I want to feel comfortable going to another country, I hate being forced to wear a mask to see my doctors...I've actually started telling them to take the mask off so that I can hear what they're saying

just when we thought we'd start doing some serious travel again, and invite family and friends down, the darn thing is rebounding....it's like an English Breakfast, it keeps coming back on us.....we're at the point that we don't trust anything that we hear about covid-19, the politicians have turned this into a political football, you can't trust any of the news stations, as they're all biased

So, so glad that we've been traveling for decades, feel sorry for those that have waited until they retired and are now caught between a rock and a hard spot