[44Apple]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes

[Polar Bear]

The only thing constant about climate is change.

How much man contributes to it or can control it are the questions.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

The only thing constant about climate is change.

How much man contributes to it or can control it are the questions.

Agreed. Over the centuries planets cools and warms and now we are apparently in a warming cycle.

How much is man made is a question. We should do our best to use resources as efficiently as possible in any case.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature - Electroverse

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes

Why should the U.S. be leading the charge? We only represent about 4 percent of the world population.

Has anyone ever presented a viable plan of action for the world that would solve the "problem" and has any chance to be accepted and implemented globally?

[mydavid]

You got to ask yourselves, what's the down side of taking better care of the planet.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Man has zero control over climate! Period end of story!

[manaboutown]

China is the main source of pollutants and carbon dioxide. Unless and until the Chi-Coms clean up their act whatever the rest of the world does or does not do will sadly have little impact.

Countries rated for carbon dioxide emissions. China is #1; US is #2. China, US: These countries produce the most CO2 emissions

[blueash]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature - Electroverse

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2. Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels.

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by blueash

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2. Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels.

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

Very good information and explanation. Sadly, many just don't want to hear it. Most don't seem to know the difference between climate and weather, and the "nay-sayers" use that confusion to support their rhetoric. There is so much we (humans) could and should due, but with our species being so fragmented, unwilling or incapable of uniting to do what is in the best interest of the planet or our species, it is good that there is such a push to get into space.

[Strongel]

Every person who has been in the far north or viewed the ice disappearing at alarming rate knows we are in a warming cycle. Ice thousands of years old has melted. Some want to place blame, some want to deny it’s happening. It may have drastic consequences if it continues, so we watch carefully. Personally I think it is a cycle of warming and cooling period. With that said, I don’t down play it and I do think as the health of earth suffers, so will we. It’s just a measure of being good stewards of that which we are a part. We are the earth, we are the eyes and ears and most of the time intelligence. Shame/blame talk doesn’t solve what’s happening if we can solve it.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by blueash

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2. Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels.

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

I posted the record Greenland low this year to show the OP that anecdotal climate data means nothing.

China’s Emissions: More Than U.S. Plus Europe, and Still Rising

China’s Emissions: More Than U.S. Plus Europe, and Still Rising - The New York Times

Check out Climate Audit This is the guy who debunked Mann's hockey stick paper. Lots of scientists and mathematicians comment there. He dissects almost every climate paper that comes out.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by blueash

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2. Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels.

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

Attempting to explain the difference between temporary "weather" and long-term "climate," while laudable...doesn't fit the agenda of the 'Climate Deniers.'

It's very analogous to the 'Flat Earthers,' that can be found...all around the globe.

Don't you understand, that making any personal sacrifice or inconvenience now, for the benefit of our children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren...is simply unacceptable? (insert facetious emoji here)

[nututv]

Oh boy, our next, ex thread. Won't take long for this one to get locked down I don't imagine,

[GoodLife]

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

It's very easy for me to find myriad instances where global warming theories have been wrong as well. I wonder why they changed the name from global warming to climate change?