[GoodLife]

We have seen some stories about "nooses" found recently that turned out to be hoaxes or cases of mistaken identity. Recently in an Oakland park, several "nooses" were found and made a big splash in the media about hateful racist symbols. Then a black man came forward and told authorities that he and his friends put the "nooses" there to use for some kind of swing exercise.

‘Nooses’ in Oakland park were exercise aids, man says

So recently a noose was found in Bubba Wallace's race car bay at a Nascar race. From what I have read, Bubba did not find the noose, it was somebody authorized to be in there. If you have ever been to a Nascar race you would know it is not easy to get even near these bays that house multi million dollar race cars and lots of expensive equipment.

The FBI was on the case immediately, they probably have the noose, but no photos of it have been released to my knowledge. Reports do not seem to mention where it was found, although some say "hanging"

Now some people have been analyzing photos of these garage bays at Talledega taken before and after the incident, and they have noticed something curious.

Almost every bay has a rope with a noose that are used to pull down the garage bay doors. However, photos of Bubba's bay 4 garage on day of incident show only a much shorter rope and no noose.

This is a photo of Bay 4 taken in November 2019 on the left, you can clearly see the rope with a noose and it's length. On the right is photo after incident showing rope cut and no noose..



This is a photo of Bay 4 on day of incident, you can see Bubba's car inside and also some FBI agents inside talking to someone. The rope pull is clearly shorter and there is no noose. You can see the rope in Bay 5 to the left



So what does one make of this?

Maybe the FBI will come up with a photo of the noose made from different rope.

Maybe someone managed to cut the pulldown rope noose and place it in the garage. I am pretty sure Nascar has surveillance cameras in this area so we will see.

Maybe whomever discovered the "noose" was not aware that all the bays at Talledega have these "noose like" garage door pulldowns and panicked, thinking it was a racist hate symbol designed to intimidate Bubba.

We shall see. If someone placed a noose deliberately in Bubba's garage then I hope they are caught and prosecuted. If someone mistook the rope pull down for a noose then they need to say my bad and apologize. If someone cooked this up to create a story then they need to be prosecuted.

[Bogie Shooter]

7 months between photos, a lot can happen in 7 months and not part of a conspiracy theory.....just sayin.

[ColdNoMore]

Bubba is not the one who found or saw it, so I'm actually hoping that it was just something someone else found/saw...and was simply misconstrued.

I'm sure those investigating...will eventually let us know.

What is still true though, is that confederate flags were in high demand...at the vendor's across the street.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

7 months between photos, a lot can happen in 7 months and not part of a conspiracy theory.....just sayin.

Sure it can, it's just curious that Bubba's rope pulldown "noose" was there before and now missing, rope is much shorter etc. Here's a photo of another bay at Talladega with the "noose"

[manaboutown]

So, this may be much ado about nothing, a tempest in a teapot or a Smollett style maneuver?

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

So, this may be much ado about nothing, a tempest in a teapot or a Smollett style maneuver?

We've seen "Smollett" style "hate crimes" being faked over and over. Student activists hang nooses on their door, write themselves fake hate letters etc so my spidey sense goes on alert every time I hear about one.

Something is very fishy about this one. The guy who discovered the "noose" called Nascar officials immediately and they were first on the scene, before the FBI.

Nascar President Steve Phelps was asked:

Can you confirm, was the rope the rope you would normally use to pull down the garage door?

Phelps: "I'm not sure, I have no information on that"

So none of the Nascar officials that went to the garage described the noose, took a cell photo of it and let Phelps know? I find that hard to believe.

Bubba is an outspoken proponent of Black Lives Matter, sported an "I can't breath tee shirt" which he has every right to do but also means he might want a big noose story in the press. Nascar is reopening with a big new marketing campaign, pushing for a more diverse audience and like many corporations, wants to show how "woke" they are.

If Nascar knew immediately that this was a case of mistaken identity, it was just a standard pulldown rope "noose" then they have perpetrated a fraud on the public by letting the story run. If they did this, they are going to try and cover it up.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

We have seen some stories about "nooses" found recently that turned out to be hoaxes or cases of mistaken identity. Recently in an Oakland park, several "nooses" were found and made a big splash in the media about hateful racist symbols. Then a black man came forward and told authorities that he and his friends put the "nooses" there to use for some kind of swing exercise.

‘Nooses’ in Oakland park were exercise aids, man says

So recently a noose was found in Bubba Wallace's race car bay at a Nascar race. From what I have read, Bubba did not find the noose, it was somebody authorized to be in there. If you have ever been to a Nascar race you would know it is not easy to get even near these bays that house multi million dollar race cars and lots of expensive equipment.

The FBI was on the case immediately, they probably have the noose, but no photos of it have been released to my knowledge. Reports do not seem to mention where it was found, although some say "hanging"

Now some people have been analyzing photos of these garage bays at Talledega taken before and after the incident, and they have noticed something curious.

Almost every bay has a rope with a noose that are used to pull down the garage bay doors. However, photos of Bubba's bay 4 garage on day of incident show only a much shorter rope and no noose.

This is a photo of Bay 4 taken in November 2019 on the left, you can clearly see the rope with a noose and it's length. On the right is photo after incident showing rope cut and no noose..

Attachment 84764

This is a photo of Bay 4 on day of incident, you can see Bubba's car inside and also some FBI agents inside talking to someone. The rope pull is clearly shorter and there is no noose. You can see the rope in Bay 5 to the left

Attachment 84765

So what does one make of this?

Maybe the FBI will come up with a photo of the noose made from different rope.

Maybe someone managed to cut the pulldown rope noose and place it in the garage. I am pretty sure Nascar has surveillance cameras in this area so we will see.

Maybe whomever discovered the "noose" was not aware that all the bays at Talledega have these "noose like" garage door pulldowns and panicked, thinking it was a racist hate symbol designed to intimidate Bubba.

We shall see. If someone placed a noose deliberately in Bubba's garage then I hope they are caught and prosecuted. If someone mistook the rope pull down for a noose then they need to say my bad and apologize. If someone cooked this up to create a story then they need to be prosecuted.

ALWAYS a conspiracy theory. The oddball, eccentric, extreme website grind them out with joy.

From the Martin Gugino theory, to murders in Florida committed by newscasters, there is always something.

From pedophiles in a pizza parlor, it simply goes on. From doctored graphs to stolen and edited quotes, there is always something.

The photos on this thread are from a Twitter account called...LAST REFUGE or LAST REFUGE 2, a rag tag group who enjoys this kind of social media.

[manaboutown]

When I first hear about "the noose" I envisioned a thick rope fashioned into a hangman style noose shockingly hanging from a sturdy rafter inside the garage so that when the door was opened one would be shocked when he saw it hanging down in front of his face. Then I saw the photos of the actual "noose" and literally burst out laughing as it possibly if not likely was simply a loop tied at the end of the pulldown cord at the side of the garage door.

Many occupants of self storage units with pull down doors tie loops at the end of their pull down cords to provide them with a slip free grip. lol

Too, I did not realize Bubba is a fan of BLM, the Burning, Looting Mob. That makes me suspicious this may be just another fake hate crime, and there have been many of them going back over the last few decades.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Bucco

ALWAYS a conspiracy theory. The oddball, eccentric, extreme website grind them out with joy.

From the Martin Gugino theory, to murders in Florida committed by newscasters, there is always something.

From pedophiles in a pizza parlor, it simply goes on. From doctored graphs to stolen and edited quotes, there is always something.

The photos on this thread are from a Twitter account called...LAST REFUGE or LAST REFUGE 2, a rag tag group who enjoys this kind of social media.

LOL The 1st photo was taken from a video posted on youtube by Rowdy Maglite posted in 2019, it shows all the garages with rope "noose" pull downs. Take a look for yourself

YouTube

The 2nd photo, taken on day of incident, was taken by Racing News and shows the rope has been cut and no "noose"

FBI investigating noose hung in NASCAR garage - Racing News

Lots of hate crimes have been proven to be hoaxes.

If the NOOSECAR does not fit
It's too smollet to acquit

[manaboutown]

If the noose is too small I smell a snarky Smollett snit.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

We have seen some stories about "nooses" found recently that turned out to be hoaxes or cases of mistaken identity. Recently in an Oakland park, several "nooses" were found and made a big splash in the media about hateful racist symbols. Then a black man came forward and told authorities that he and his friends put the "nooses" there to use for some kind of swing exercise.

‘Nooses’ in Oakland park were exercise aids, man says

So recently a noose was found in Bubba Wallace's race car bay at a Nascar race. From what I have read, Bubba did not find the noose, it was somebody authorized to be in there. If you have ever been to a Nascar race you would know it is not easy to get even near these bays that house multi million dollar race cars and lots of expensive equipment.

The FBI was on the case immediately, they probably have the noose, but no photos of it have been released to my knowledge. Reports do not seem to mention where it was found, although some say "hanging"

Now some people have been analyzing photos of these garage bays at Talledega taken before and after the incident, and they have noticed something curious.

Almost every bay has a rope with a noose that are used to pull down the garage bay doors. However, photos of Bubba's bay 4 garage on day of incident show only a much shorter rope and no noose.

This is a photo of Bay 4 taken in November 2019 on the left, you can clearly see the rope with a noose and it's length. On the right is photo after incident showing rope cut and no noose..

Attachment 84764

This is a photo of Bay 4 on day of incident, you can see Bubba's car inside and also some FBI agents inside talking to someone. The rope pull is clearly shorter and there is no noose. You can see the rope in Bay 5 to the left

Attachment 84765

So what does one make of this?

Maybe the FBI will come up with a photo of the noose made from different rope.

Maybe someone managed to cut the pulldown rope noose and place it in the garage. I am pretty sure Nascar has surveillance cameras in this area so we will see.

Maybe whomever discovered the "noose" was not aware that all the bays at Talledega have these "noose like" garage door pulldowns and panicked, thinking it was a racist hate symbol designed to intimidate Bubba.

We shall see. If someone placed a noose deliberately in Bubba's garage then I hope they are caught and prosecuted. If someone mistook the rope pull down for a noose then they need to say my bad and apologize. If someone cooked this up to create a story then they need to be prosecuted.

The Bubba noose is possibly a hoax. Don't know but time will tell.

When Jessie Smollett pulled his hoax, anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature could figure it out. This one somehow seems too perfect in it's timing coupled with the emotional Nascar photo op.

Call me ... skeptical.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Bubba is not the one who found or saw it, so I'm actually hoping that it was just something someone else found/saw...and was simply misconstrued.

I'm sure those investigating...will eventually let us know.

What is still true though, is that confederate flags were in high demand...at the vendor's across the street.

*Breaking News*

The FBI just released a statement, that in essence stated...Bubba was NOT the target of a hate crime.

Which, as I said above...is actually a relief.

And I will give it to Goodlife's reports, that it looks like it WAS a door pull rope (that was made to look like a noose sometime last fall and prior to Wallace being assigned the stall at this race)...that was just misconstrued by a crew member.

Good news...all the way around.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

*Breaking News*

The FBI just released a statement, that in essence stated...Bubba was NOT the target of a hate crime.

Which, as I said above...is actually a relief.

And I will give it to Goodlife's reports, that it looks like it WAS a door pull rope (that was made to look like a noose sometime last fall and prior to Wallace being assigned the stall at this race)...that was just misconstrued by a crew member.

Good news...all the way around.

Good news yes but not really ... it shows how easily people's emotions and "feelings" can be manipulated.

Nascar should apologize for being this dumb

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

Good news yes but not really ... it shows how easily people's emotions and "feelings" can be manipulated.

Nascar should apologize for being this dumb

DARNED RIGHT!!

Especially since it's not like there are plenty of the NASCAR base that are livid with the banning of confederate flags and on top of that, it's not like there's ever been a case where a rope noose...has been used to try and intimidate black people.

What in the heck was NASCAR even thinking?


All-in-all though, it IS...a big relief.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

*Breaking News*

The FBI just released a statement, that in essence stated...Bubba was NOT the target of a hate crime.

Which, as I said above...is actually a relief.

And I will give it to Goodlife's reports, that it looks like it WAS a door pull rope (that was made to look like a noose sometime last fall and prior to Wallace being assigned the stall at this race)...that was just misconstrued by a crew member.

Good news...all the way around.

Always trust content from Goodlife! Where's my Pulitzer?

I want to know what Nascar knew, and when they knew it. I think they knew right away but the photo op was too good to pass up

There is a reckoning of a different order due.