[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

It's very easy for me to find myriad instances where global warming theories have been wrong as well. I wonder why they changed the name from global warming to climate change?

We all know the reason for the name change.

unfortunately climate change has been politicized. one of the most famous physicists, Freeman Dyson, stated the climate change models are too inaccurate to make accurate long range predictions. and as with covid19 the cure could be worse than the disease.

[ALadysMom]

Did you report this to the woke environmental-activist crowd?

You’ll find them out filling our landfills with their destruction.

[ALadysMom]

Do you know how long accurate climate records have been kept? In many US locations they date WAY back to about 1800.

As we all have recently learned the hard way, statistical modeling is dependent on the accuracy and sufficiency of data input.
Garbage (data) In = Garbage (Conclusions) Out

[Number 10 GI]

The weather data we have only goes back for a couple hundred years at most. In the life of the Earth that is like a blink of the eye of in the life of a May Fly which only live about a day. Would you base your investment strategy on one minute of stock trading?
There is a place called Greenland but it is covered by snow! Theory is the Vikings settled that area and gave it the name of Greenland because of the verdant vegetation growing there. This theory has been fairly well documented based on artifacts found there by archaeologists. If the climate has been getting warmer what happened to Greenland? Scientists estimate there have been something like 5 ice ages in the life of the Earth and it warmed up after each one. It got warm enough for cold blooded animals called dinosaurs to live in large areas of the world where they wouldn't be able to live now. I don't think there were any SUV's or humans in the millions living then.

P.T. Barnum said "you can fool most of the people most of the time". There have been numerous news stories of so-called climate scientists fudging, manipulating and completely ignoring findings that don't support their narrative. Computer modules being changed to support their claims when they didn't get what they wanted from the original program.
P.T. Barnum also said "there is a fool born every minute".

[Topspinmo]

Mean temperature calculation’s are at 58 degree presently. Now where near the calculated 75 degrees when The dinosaurs Roamed the earth. Look at charts. They go up and the go down. Some say it has to do with the elliptic cycle of the earth around the sun, basic it get farther away and earth enters ice age. There NOTHING human’s can do to control it. So they say, but I sure a carbon tax will fix it.

[ColdNoMore]

Here's one pretty important group (along with +-90% of climate scientists )...that doesn't believe climate change is just a hoax or hype.

DOD On Climate Change/National Security (click here)

The report finds that climate change is a security risk, Pentagon officials said, because it degrades living conditions, human security and the ability of governments to meet the basic needs of their populations.

Communities and states that already are fragile and have limited resources are significantly more vulnerable to disruption and far less likely to respond effectively and be resilient to new challenges, they added.

“The Department of Defense's primary responsibility is to protect national security interests around the world,” officials said in a news release announcing the report’s submission. “This involves considering all aspects of the global security environment and planning appropriately for potential contingencies and the possibility of unexpected developments both in the near and the longer terms.

“It is in this context,” they continued, “that the department must consider the effects of climate change -- such as sea level rise, shifting climate zones and more frequent and intense severe weather events -- and how these effects could impact national security.”

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Mean temperature calculation’s are at 58 degree presently. Now where near the calculated 75 degrees when The dinosaurs Roamed the earth. Look at charts. They go up and the go down. Some say it has to do with the elliptic cycle of the earth around the sun, basic it get farther away and earth enters ice age. There NOTHING human’s can do to control it. So they say, but I sure a carbon tax will fix it.

Dinosaurs are a hoax and fake news, since the earth...is only 10,000 years old.

Just ask...

[nututv]

It's been hashed over too many times and people still ignore it. I don't think people dispute the climate is changing. The dispute is what the cause is.
There isn't any more (or less) water on this planet than there really ever was regarding this argument.
Sea levels have risen and fallen over the millennia. Florida had salt water beaches further inland than Gainesville at one time. It happened before, it'll probably happen again.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Here's one pretty important group (along with +-90% of climate scientists )...that doesn't believe climate change is just a hoax or hype.

Only 90% agree there's climate change? Ask any person on the street if the climate changes they will say yes, they know what weather is.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

...Here's one pretty important group (along with +-90% of climate scientists )...that doesn't believe climate change is just a hoax or hype...

Wow. So +-10% of climate scientists believe the climate is not changing at all?!? That's even higher than I would have predicted!

[Number 10 GI]

That 90% claim is bogus, do you really believe you will get 90% of any group to agree on anything?

[ColdNoMore]

From NASA.


Climate Scientists (poke here)

Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities.

In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.

The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.

Note that ONLY "ACTIVELY PUBLISHING, PEER-REVIEWED CLIMATE SCIENTISTS" (NOT...politicians/scientists in other fields/non peer-reviewed/Etc.) are included.

That sure eliminates a lot of the Riffraff.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

That 90% claim is bogus, do you really believe you will get 90% of any group to agree on anything?

It is a known fact that if you get 10 economists in a room you will get 11 opinions.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

The weather data we have only goes back for a couple hundred years at most. In the life of the Earth that is like a blink of the eye of in the life of a May Fly which only live about a day. Would you base your investment strategy on one minute of stock trading?
There is a place called Greenland but it is covered by snow! Theory is the Vikings settled that area and gave it the name of Greenland because of the verdant vegetation growing there. This theory has been fairly well documented based on artifacts found there by archaeologists. If the climate has been getting warmer what happened to Greenland? Scientists estimate there have been something like 5 ice ages in the life of the Earth and it warmed up after each one. It got warm enough for cold blooded animals called dinosaurs to live in large areas of the world where they wouldn't be able to live now. I don't think there were any SUV's or humans in the millions living then.

P.T. Barnum said "you can fool most of the people most of the time". There have been numerous news stories of so-called climate scientists fudging, manipulating and completely ignoring findings that don't support their narrative. Computer modules being changed to support their claims when they didn't get what they wanted from the original program.
P.T. Barnum also said "there is a fool born every minute".

We were planning on a cruise to Greenland in August but the virus put the kibosh on that. Could have taken instruments and investigated to prove whether big foot was ever there.