[Edmond]

The planet has been cooling for the last 10 years not warming. Go th Tony Heller’s site and learn the true facts. As far as Arctic ice there is as much ice there now as in the year 1981. I agree the global warming now changed to climate change is a hoax

[Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

China is the main source of pollutants and carbon dioxide. Unless and until the Chi-Coms clean up their act whatever the rest of the world does or does not do will sadly have little impact.

Countries rated for carbon dioxide emissions. China is #1; US is #2. China, US: These countries produce the most CO2 emissions

India is #2, Indonesia is #3

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Scale baby...scale.

So, I forget, which one of those graphs show a consistent rise over a 100 year period...versus MILLIONS of years?

That's the point, 100 years is just a blip in earth's history. The climate has changed drastically up and down long before humans were on the scene. We are in a relative cooler period right now and a .5 C rise over 100 years is nothing to be alarmed about.

There have been periods where no ice existed at the poles and periods where ice covered most of the USA. Well before anyone know what fossil fuels were.

Remember when global warmists predicted 20 foot rise in sea levels? In the last 25 years as measured by NASA it's gone up 93 mm, about 3.6 inches.

[Heyitsrick]

The TOTV forums are continuing their reign of being the American guilt pages.

Ok, where to start?

Let's start at the beginning - the OP's thread equating a high temperature with climate change. It's so demonstrably incorrect, but that's how things work here, apparently.

What do we know about Verkhoyansk? Oh, that it has the distinction of being the Guinness World Record holder for the the world's widest temperature range:

Verkhoyansk currently holds the Guinness World Record for the greatest temperature range on earth - fluctuating from minus 68C to a high of 37.3C.

Note: that Guinness designation didn't happen this week.

So, what was the previous record at Verkhoyansk? And when?

On 20 June 2020, it set a record for the highest temperature above the Arctic Circle, at 100.4°F (38°C),[12] beating the previous record of 99.1 °F (37.3°C) set on July 25, 1988.

Yep, 99.1 degrees F in 1988.

[noslices1]

To fix the CO2 problem, just stop cutting down trees. They take CO2 and turn it to Oxygen. Oxygen is good.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

That's the point, 100 years is just a blip in earth's history. The climate has changed drastically up and down long before humans were on the scene. We are in a relative cooler period right now and a .5 C rise over 100 years is nothing to be alarmed about.

There have been periods where no ice existed at the poles and periods where ice covered most of the USA. Well before anyone know what fossil fuels were.

Remember when global warmists predicted 20 foot rise in sea levels? In the last 25 years as measured by NASA it's gone up 93 mm, about 3.6 inches.

You know darned well, that the importance of the 100 years is the correspondence...with human industrialism.

But go ahead and try to confuse with a scale of MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years...as a comparison.


Certain folks will certainly buy it.


.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

You know darned well, that the importance of the 100 years is the correspondence...with human industrialism.

But go ahead and try to confuse with a scale of MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years...as a comparison.


Certain folks will certainly buy it.


.

LOL I thought correspondence (correlation) does not mean causation?

Besides, CO2 levels do not correlate very well with temperatures anyway.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA

Man has zero control over climate! Period end of story!

Oh, really? So, if we put a giant sun shield in orbit between the Earth and the Sun it wouldn’t affect our climate? If we set off a dozen nuclear weapons every year so that there was constantly a lot of dust and soot high in the atmosphere it would not affect the climate?

I’ve noticed that little kids don’t realize it hurts adults when they hit them or pull their hair. They don’t think they have the power to affect grownups. Most learn that’s not true by the time they are six or so. It’s apparent some never learn the lesson.

[bp243]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes

Thanks for this post! Leadership is about acknowledging a problem followed up by finding the experts to provide possible solutions. A few countries have succeeded in showing results In these areas based on their leadership. It is possible.

[Windguy]

I see there’s a lot of YouTube University School of Climate Science graduates here in The Villages. I hope y’all display your diplomas proudly.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by jnafix

wow and the Earth is flat right?

Such a profound answer. Really had to work for that one.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes

Here's some actual science for you.

A Light In Siberia

[forebubba]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Why should the U.S. be leading the charge? We only represent about 4 percent of the world population.

Has anyone ever presented a viable plan of action for the world that would solve the "problem" and has any chance to be accepted and implemented globally?

Check the stats for the last 15 years. Co2 levels are off the charts due to mostly burning fossil fuels. Look at pictures of artic ice and glaciers now and 15 years ago.
The ice age temperature on earth was only 4 degrees lower than today. Weather is day to day. Climate is a long period of time. As 4% of the population...we contribute more pollution per person than any country.
On Covid-19, if we have 4% of population, why do we have 25% of the deaths?

Whenever someone talks about climate change I quietly ask myself "what do they expect me to do about it?"

Al Gore flew in a private jet to give his speeches on climate change and lived in a house that cost 100 times more in co2 release than the average American home. I read about this long ago and don't have facts to back this up.

I have very limited knowledge on this subject but from what I have heard is that the changes needed are going to exceed the financial abilities of every country? That forcing the pace of technology beyond reasonable investment expectations could result in accelerating debt that gets out of control?

I'm all for reducing pollution and co2 emissions but I doubt whatever steps I take will make a difference. I feel I've already maxed out what I can do, within reason.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by forebubba

Check the stats for the last 15 years. Co2 levels are off the charts due to mostly burning fossil fuels. Look at pictures of artic ice and glaciers now and 15 years ago.
The ice age temperature on earth was only 4 degrees lower than today. Weather is day to day. Climate is a long period of time. As 4% of the population...we contribute more pollution per person than any country.
On Covid-19, if we have 4% of population, why do we have 25% of the deaths?

No, CO2 levels are currently at their lowest levels in over 500 million years

Correct, climate is over a long period of time, not just last 100 years.