I Learned Something Today about Cars I Learned Something Today about Cars - Page 3 - Talk of The Villages Florida

I Learned Something Today about Cars

Reply
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old Yesterday, 07:51 AM
Rango Rango is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 750
Thanks: 285
Thanked 118 Times in 55 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
I am definitely not a car guy. But I thought I knew how to check the oil level in my car. The last oil change, I used synthetic oil because the mechanic said it would last 7,500 miles. Yesterday, after about 6,800 miles, the "check engine" light and the oil light came on in my car. I checked the oil level and it looked fine. There has never been any oil on my garage floor, but my car was almost totally out of oil. I took the car to Firestone, the guy changed the oil, and he said I only had about one quart of oil in the car. There was no indication of a leak. It is interesting that the low oil light never came on before yesterday. Apparently, when checking the oil, you need to look at both sides of the dipstick. I was only looking at one side. I was also surprised that a car with only 65,000 miles could burn off that much oil with no indication that the car was using any oil. In the future, I will be changing my oil much more often.

Very few if any cars have a “low oil light”. They have a “low oil pressure” light

I was a Ford dealership technician. For warranty purposes 1qt/1000 miles was acceptable

In a modern car 1 qt/1000 miles is too high. You will get a plugged cat converter.
  #32  
Old Yesterday, 08:09 AM
nn0wheremann nn0wheremann is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 868
Thanks: 89
Thanked 336 Times in 239 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by villagetinker View Post
I have seen some articles recently that automotive manufacturers consider 1 quart every 1000 miles to be acceptable. Now I would ask the dealer or look at the owners manual to see when the oil light is supposed to come on. Since you do not have any indication of a leak, you are probably burning the oil, you could have someone follow you and see if they see any smoke from the tail pipe.
Wipe the inside of your tailpipe with your finger. Use a paper towel or kleenex if you have delicate fingers. If it comes out with a thick coat of black carbon, your car is burning oil. It should come out fairly clean. When checking oil, park the car on a level surface, remove the dipstick and wipe it clean. Reinsert it, then remove and read the level. Cars back in the old days routinely threw off the top quart in the first 500 miles, but that was then. No car in good running order should use a quart every thousand miles. As new cars age, with the extremely light viscosity oil we use nowadays there will be oil consumption, so ditch the 0-15 or 5-20 for 10-30 after 75,000 or 100,000 miles.
Also, check your oil immediately after an oil change. Some technicians are not careful. I have found oil under-filled by a quart, or over-filled the same amount. A tech at Walmart once lost the crush washer from the drain plug on my Subaru, and used a plastic garden hose washer. The bottom cover under the engine caught the leaking oil for a thousnd miles before it overflowed onto my driveway.
  #33  
Old Yesterday, 08:38 AM
Tomptomp Tomptomp is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 116
Thanks: 0
Thanked 133 Times in 55 Posts
Default Burning oil ?

If the PCV (positive crankshaft ventilation) valve is clogged then pressure can build in the crankshaft forcing oil past the rings and into the cylinder. It’s an easy check but unusual problem.
  #34  
Old Yesterday, 08:44 AM
Rocksnap Rocksnap is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2024
Posts: 400
Thanks: 996
Thanked 425 Times in 193 Posts
Default

Change out the PVC valve. They are relatively cheap, and are known to fail. What is a PCV valve and how does it work?
  #35  
Old Yesterday, 08:50 AM
Bwanajim Bwanajim is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 244
Thanks: 106
Thanked 175 Times in 92 Posts
Default

I completely restored a 66 Corvette, including pulling the engine and everything else. I don't think I could find a dipstick on my car today!🙄
  #36  
Old Yesterday, 08:53 AM
Josephjmarchese Josephjmarchese is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 30
Thanks: 14
Thanked 22 Times in 11 Posts
Default

Perhaps, and I hate to say it, but maybe the mechanic who changed the oil before you big loss, didn’t fill it
  #37  
Old Yesterday, 08:54 AM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,173
Thanks: 7,626
Thanked 6,268 Times in 3,237 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrChip72 View Post
There's a retired mechanic guy on YouTube that has a Dodge Caravan with over 400k miles on it which is extremely rare for a Dodge almost unheard of. (not unusual at all for a Toyota or Honda)

He claimed that to make up for the poorly made Chrysler engine he has changed the oil every 2000 miles and that is the main reason for reaching that level. Seems plausible. 200 oil changes seems a bit extreme though.
I could still be driving my 56 Chevy I brought at 16, most anything can be fixed or repaired it person motivated enough. Not so much with newer electronic controlled vehicles, once rhe miles of wiring get corroded then headed for smasher. In rust belt that’s about 6 years. We see how electric vehicles fair in the rust belt?
  #38  
Old Yesterday, 08:55 AM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,173
Thanks: 7,626
Thanked 6,268 Times in 3,237 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josephjmarchese View Post
Perhaps, and I hate to say it, but maybe the mechanic who changed the oil before you big loss, didn’t fill it
See I would have known that cause I follow up on anything done to my vehicle other than me.
  #39  
Old Yesterday, 08:57 AM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,173
Thanks: 7,626
Thanked 6,268 Times in 3,237 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwanajim View Post
I completely restored a 66 Corvette, including pulling the engine and everything else. I don't think I could find a dipstick on my car today!🙄
If you’re taking about transmission dipstick you could be right, some models don’t have transmission dipsticks.
  #40  
Old Yesterday, 08:58 AM
sowilts sowilts is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 286
Thanks: 5
Thanked 87 Times in 63 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwanajim View Post
I completely restored a 66 Corvette, including pulling the engine and everything else. I don't think I could find a dipstick on my car today!🙄
My new GLS 450 does not have a dipstick and has a plastic drain plug. Can check the oil level from the computer. S Series has a dipstick. 95k on the 2019 and is the same level when I check.
  #41  
Old Yesterday, 09:01 AM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,470
Thanks: 3,059
Thanked 16,638 Times in 6,576 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josephjmarchese View Post
Perhaps, and I hate to say it, but maybe the mechanic who changed the oil before you big loss, didn’t fill it
That is possible.
  #42  
Old Yesterday, 09:07 AM
NoMoSno NoMoSno is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,336
Thanks: 188
Thanked 367 Times in 230 Posts
Default

I would take it to a trusted mechanic and hook it up to the OBD scanner.
See if any obvious codes could be causing the issue. It should show if a PCV valve may need replacing.
Burning that much oil will clog the Cat in no time.
  #43  
Old Yesterday, 09:14 AM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,470
Thanks: 3,059
Thanked 16,638 Times in 6,576 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoMoSno View Post
I would take it to a trusted mechanic and hook it up to the OBD scanner.
See if any obvious codes could be causing the issue. It should show if a PCV valve may need replacing.
Burning that much oil will clog the Cat in no time.
If that is the plug-in connection under the steering wheel, it was done, but no indication of a PCV problem. The mechanic who did the computer check said that it could be one of 3 problems costing between $400 and $2000 and that he needed to keep the vehicle for an entire day. It seems to me that the fancy computer gizmo would have suggested that the oil level be checked or that the mechanic could have figured that out himself. It wasn't until he reset the check engine light and I drove away that the red oil pressure light came on. At that point, I checked the oil level, but I only looked at one side of the dipstick, which indicated that there was plenty of oil. So, I took the car to Firestone and the guy knew immediately that the oil level was low, he changed the oil, and the problem was solved. Go figure. What I learned is that you need to check the oil often and you need to examine both sides of the dipstick. I do not know how the oil level got so low, but I have never had this issue with any vehicle I have owned.

Last edited by retiredguy123; Yesterday at 10:00 AM.
  #44  
Old Yesterday, 09:21 AM
Worldseries27 Worldseries27 is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,582
Thanks: 354
Thanked 903 Times in 516 Posts
Default Money for nothing i

Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
2017 ford escape. I have been changing the oil every 5k miles, until i used a synthetic oil, which is not required for my vehicle. But, honestly, i didn't expect it to burn oil, so i haven't checked the level very often. I tend to be lax about maintenance because i consider vehicles to be disposable items. I would never keep a vehicle for more than about 80k miles. I know that many people don't like fords, but they seem to be the best value today as compared to toyotas and hondas, especially if you are not keeping the vehicle very long.

I recently tried to buy a toyota using the costco free buying service, but the price the dealer wanted was outrageous. The rav4 was about 10k higher than the ford escape.
i know a guy who returned his 2017 ford escape and got a new engine block from key scales ford leesburg. it was covered under a recall. It was running rough and burning oil. Suggest you let them look at it. You got nothing to lose. If it's not covered under a recall you can always walk out. No harm in asking.
Attached Thumbnails
The Villages Florida: Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20250726_101413.jpg
Views:	83
Size:	42.6 KB
ID:	109332  

Last edited by Worldseries27; Yesterday at 09:24 AM. Reason: Spell
  #45  
Old Yesterday, 09:22 AM
NoMoSno NoMoSno is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,336
Thanks: 188
Thanked 367 Times in 230 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
If that is the plug-in connection under the steering wheel, it was done, but no indication of a PVC problem.
Yes.
Keep an eye on the oil level.
It could be just a fluke (last oil change wasn't filled properly)?
Reply

Tags
oil, car, miles, light, indication

Thread Tools

You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:51 PM.