[jarodrig]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

In the real world of golf course maintenance, mowing, watering, fertilizing, aerating, rolling, punching, etc., isn't necessarily done on a fixed, weekly/monthly/yearly schedule. It is done "as conditions warrant".

Hence the problem . They are mowing the sh@t on these courses when the conditions ARE NOT warranted!

Having that practice STOPPED will be a very quick way to almost immediately improve the condition of these courses .

For that to happen , supervision needs to take place . Obviously, there is nor has there been any <real> supervision or real accountability to guard against incompetency…..

[HORNET]

A couple of weeks ago I was playing Sandhill, there were 3 large tractors ( tractors) moving grass that was short ( very short ) and already brown! Why weren’t they doing something other than beating up on dried up grass.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by HORNET

A couple of weeks ago I was playing Sandhill, there were 3 large tractors ( tractors) moving grass that was short ( very short ) and already brown! Why weren’t they doing something other than beating up on dried up grass.

Contract calls for mowing the grass 3X per week, they mow 3X per week. Did you ever try to talk to one of the mower operators? We're not talking brain surgeons, here.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Contract calls for mowing the grass 3X per week, they mow 3X per week. Did you ever try to talk to one of the mower operators? We're not talking brain surgeons, here.

Shouldnt the folks who manage the upkeep of the courses tell their employees what they are supposed to do?

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

The golf review should come from an agronomy person. That is the first big step.
Just hire 1 qualified superintendent to do nothing but constantly review every golf course and determine playing conditions.

I personally think there should be 3/4/5 real agronomist, superintendents who oversee the course conditions. And even that number may not be enough.

[Dusty_Star]

Thank you Brian. Thanks for your time, effort, knowledge & sharing. It is much appreciated.

[Annie66]

I have read all of the responses through #35. There is a discussion about adding people to supervise and assess conditions but no discussion on the cost and how it would be paid. Since the developer does not own the courses north of SR44 where much of the angst is centered, it appears that we will have multiple groups involved in making decisions about what to do and how much to spend. It strikes me as an approach that is fraught with problems. If my comments above are correct, my question is how do you secure a long-term, organized and coordinated approach that adequately funds the plan year-in and year-out in order to obtain the desired results?

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Annie66

If my comments above are correct, my question is how do you secure a long-term, organized and coordinated approach that adequately funds the plan year-in and year-out in order to obtain the desired results?

Good comment, given the increase in the amenity fee is capped at CPI.

[jarodrig]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Shouldnt the folks who manage the upkeep of the courses tell their employees what they are supposed to do?

And there lies the problem . They are as incompetent as the ones riding the mowers ….

There is no accountability and their only answer is to name some or something else ! Does El Niño come to mind ???

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Good comment, given the increase in the amenity fee is capped at CPI.

Quality maintenance is a zero sum game. The money that's spent on maintenance, saves money from the increased budget item to renovated golf courses on a 10-12 year cycle.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I agree 100%.

That said, the Championship Courses are a horse of another color. I'd love Rickey Craig (VP of Golf/Tennis) to call me and ask me to tour some of the courses with him and make suggestions.

I've been waiting for Jessica Biel to call me for a few years now. Rickey will probably call after Jessica does.

Justin Timberlake may have something to do with that... The Bastid!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jarodrig

And there lies the problem . They are as incompetent as the ones riding the mowers ….

There is no accountability and their only answer is to name some or something else ! Does El Niño come to mind ???

That is why some changes should be in order

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Annie66

I have read all of the responses through #35. There is a discussion about adding people to supervise and assess conditions but no discussion on the cost and how it would be paid. Since the developer does not own the courses north of SR44 where much of the angst is centered, it appears that we will have multiple groups involved in making decisions about what to do and how much to spend. It strikes me as an approach that is fraught with problems. If my comments above are correct, my question is how do you secure a long-term, organized and coordinated approach that adequately funds the plan year-in and year-out in order to obtain the desired results?

I believe the developer owns all of the championship courses

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I believe the developer owns all of the championship courses

The thread and discussion is about the Executive Courses, which are not owned by the Developer.

The Developer owns all the Championship courses and some of the Executive courses south of 44.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I agree 100%.

That said, the Championship Courses are a horse of another color. I'd love Rickey Craig (VP of Golf/Tennis) to call me and ask me to tour some of the courses with him and make suggestions.

I've been waiting for Jessica Biel to call me for a few years now. Rickey will probably call after Jessica does.

Met her when she was briefly at college in Boston area before going back to LA. Yes....they, I mean she....was as advertised!