[Papa_lecki]

There have been many threads this spring about the deplorable exec and champ course conditions. In my experience, the executives are worse than they’ve been in the last few years, the champs are as bad as the have been historically (albeit not good, just about the same as the last few years). For example, Havana has been bad the last few years.

WHAT DO WE (as residents) DO?
email the paper?
Email someone in the developer’s org?
Email someone in the districts org (or some other home owner org)?

We should be coordinated;; i.e. the same message to the same group of people.

Any ideas?

[Bill14564]

For the executive courses, make your feelings known at a PWAC or AAC meeting and possibly also at a SLCDD or VCCDD meeting.

PWAC and AAC are advisory boards with resident members.
SLCDD and VCCDD are developer-elected boards which actually control the amenities

Any necessary actions need to be taken by the SLCDD or VCCDD but the PWAC and AAC can advise the xxCDD to take those actions.

[rustyp]

Want to improve conditions on the executive courses ? Decrease demand :
1 - Build more executive courses in the south
2 - Have them lower the high season prices on the championship courses !

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Want to improve conditions on the executive courses ?
1 - Build more executive courses in the south
2 - Have them lower the high season prices on the championship courses !

Both suggestions would yield positive results, but don’t hold your breath waiting for those to happen. The suggestions in post #2 are a more realistic approach.

The absolute most effective way to see results would be for prospective home buyers to back away from purchasing and leave strong feedback that the reason is both poor/inconsistent golf conditions and difficulty getting T Times on the Executives.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Want to improve conditions on the executive courses ? Decrease demand :
1 - Build more executive courses in the south
2 - Have them lower the high season prices on the championship courses !

Perhaps 3 - Limit the number of tee times to reduce wear and tear

If the amount of traffic is causing the degradation of the courses then decrease the amount of traffic. Yes, everyone resident is entitled to free golf on the executive courses as part of the amenity fee. Everyone also is entitled to sit in the squares but there are a limited number of seats and there are times when people get turned away. The same could be true for the courses - if the heavy usage of the courses is what is causing the poor conditions then reduce the usage by turning (more) people away. There will certainly be complaints from those that are turned away but unlike today, the courses should be in better shape for those who do get to play.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

There have been many threads this spring about the deplorable exec and champ course conditions. In my experience, the executives are worse than they’ve been in the last few years, the champs are as bad as the have been historically (albeit not good, just about the same as the last few years). For example, Havana has been bad the last few years.

WHAT DO WE (as residents) DO?
email the paper?
Email someone in the developer’s org?
Email someone in the districts org (or some other home owner org)?

We should be coordinated;; i.e. the same message to the same group of people.

Any ideas?

Yes

Take a day off playing Championship Courses and hold a monster GOLF CART PARADE!

[kcrazorbackfan]

You people doing the most complaining about the conditions are probably the ones that never fix ball marks, never sand divots, never rake traps, drive through wet areas, pull right up next to the greens, drive between the traps and the greens, pull off the cart path pulling up to the tee box - anyone want to add anything else?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

You people doing the most complaining about the conditions are probably the ones that never fix ball marks, never sand divots, never rake traps, drive through wet areas, pull right up next to the greens, drive between the traps and the greens, pull off the cart path pulling up to the tee box - anyone want to add anything else?

Yes.

While all those have an effect, they are behaviors that golf courses everywhere, deal with and have for the history of golf.

Those problems aren't isolated to The Villages and not the major cause of the horrendous conditions on many of TV's golf courses.

[alwann]

Take a page from the political folks. Put signs on your golf carts saying "Golf Courses Here, Yuck," and then parade around the sales centers. We'd probably be cited for violating some law or rule, but the news people from Ocala, Leesburg and Orlando could have an interest in the story. It's doubtful whether our local paper would.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by alwann

It's doubtful whether our local paper would.

Are you suggesting the local paper is biased?

[alwann]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Are you suggesting the local paper is biased?

I was being cautiously diplomatic.

[UpNorth]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

You people doing the most complaining about the conditions are probably the ones that never fix ball marks, never sand divots, never rake traps, drive through wet areas, pull right up next to the greens, drive between the traps and the greens, pull off the cart path pulling up to the tee box - anyone want to add anything else?

None of the above have anything to do with the conditions at Tarpon Boil, Redfish Run, Evans Prarie, Havana, etc. You can't even blame El Nino.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

None of the above have anything to do with the conditions at Tarpon Boil, Redfish Run, Evans Prarie, Havana, etc. You can't even blame El Nino.

The Arnold Palmer Invitational begins this week, in Orlando.

It will be televised. It will be interesting to see how El Nino affected that golf course, 40 miles away. I bet El Nino spared Bay Hill.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

You people doing the most complaining about the conditions are probably the ones that never fix ball marks, never sand divots, never rake traps, drive through wet areas, pull right up next to the greens, drive between the traps and the greens, pull off the cart path pulling up to the tee box - anyone want to add anything else?

That’s kind of harsh, go drop $75 of your hard earned $$ playing Evans or Havana and tell me the conditions are not worthy of being upset. Something not good is going on, in many years of being a Villager those kind of conditions have never existed before.

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

WHAT DO WE (as residents) DO?
email the paper?

Yes! As long as you mean a real newspaper like the Orlando Sentinel or the Ocala StarBanner and not the pretend one that many of us get delivered every day.