[Bay Kid]

At this time of year it becomes difficult to secure tee times for 2. What I have noticed during the week is that so many tee times are taken by large groups and often there are several players that don't show up with their group, leaving unused tee times.

Please call the starters shack as early as possible to let them know you will not be able to play. At least this will give other call in players a chance to enjoy a round of golf. Rain or shine!

[rsimpson]

Please call the starters shack as early as possible to let them know you will not be able to play. At least this will give other call in players a chance to enjoy a round of golf. Rain or shine![/QUOTE]

On a related note, we had four 'players' drive through our foursome last Sunday AM on an executive course in the South. We were on the 6th hole meaning they had played No More Than FOUR holes. As they drove passed they said: "We need to get to Church." I am appalled that these four people would take a Prime Time Sunday AM tee time from real golfers and play only FOUR Holes! Unbelievable!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

At this time of year it becomes difficult to secure tee times for 2. What I have noticed during the week is that so many tee times are taken by large groups and often there are several players that don't show up with their group, leaving unused tee times.

Please call the starters shack as early as possible to let them know you will not be able to play. At least this will give other call in players a chance to enjoy a round of golf. Rain or shine!

Actually, it's worse than that. Over the years I've overheard groups talking about how they put in players that they know are not going to play so they won't have to play with "strangers". The tee time office tries to monitor for this, but they would have had to commit an egregious offense to get caught

[rsimpson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, it's worse than that. Over the years I've overheard groups talking about how they put in players that they know are not going to play so they won't have to play with "strangers". The tee time office tries to monitor for this, but they would have had to commit an egregious offense to get caught

Doesn't the No Show get 2 points for no show?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by rsimpson

Doesn't the No Show get 2 points for no show?

Sure. But I understand they use people on vacation or who usually just play execs for champ tee times and vice versa. I have heard about people getting caught, but I don't think it happens often

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, it's worse than that. Over the years I've overheard groups talking about how they put in players that they know are not going to play so they won't have to play with "strangers". The tee time office tries to monitor for this, but they would have had to commit an egregious offense to get caught

When playing as a single, I have learned the hard way to avoid joining threesomes that are part of a group. It’s not unusual to see a few threesomes stacked up for the first tee times of the afternoon wave, which is the tell tale sign of a group. They hope no one will join them, which holds an open space for group members that might show up unscheduled, and sometimes are not very welcoming to golfers outside their group joining them. When playing as a single, it is very unusual to not enjoy the company of fellow golfers, with that one exception.

[MrFlorida]

No show gets 3 points, a cancellation gets 2 points

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sure. But I understand they use people on vacation or who usually just play execs for champ tee times and vice versa. I have heard about people getting caught, but I don't think it happens often

That used to go on at our club, until we solved it. You get to do it twice. The 3rd time, you get charged a Guest Fee for the players who didn't show up. $175/person is a steep price to pay, for the convenience of not playing with a "stranger".

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

No show gets 3 points, a cancellation gets 2 points

Enhanced membership creates a moral hazard. The members can flaunt the system and indiscriminately accumulate points and their requests will still trump resident members who follow the rules. What’s even worse is that their guests get priority over resident members.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Enhanced membership creates a moral hazard. The members can flaunt the system and indiscriminately accumulate points and their requests will still trump resident members who follow the rules. What’s even worse is that their guests get priority over resident members.

And the person who pays for a Bentley gets a better car than a Chevy----what's the point????

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And the person who pays for a Bentley gets a better car than a Chevy----what's the point????

The persons driving both the Bentley and the Chevy gets the same penalty for running a stop sign. The points accumulated by an enhanced member (and their guests) are less penal than for the resident member.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

The persons driving both the Bentley and the Chevy gets the same penalty for running a stop sign. The points accumulated by an enhanced member (and their guests) are less penal than for the resident member.

The person running the stop sign pays more than one who stops for it

I'm not advocating that priority members should go ahead and cheat/rig the system. In fact, I doubt they are the problem since points don't really matter to them. But if someone wants a discount on greens fees and a better chance of getting the tee time they want, they have to pay for it. And those that don't want to pay for it have no right to complain. After all, everyone is not equal in this system, like they are in N. Korea

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Talk about stating the obvious and misdirecting the point! But if getting in the last word floats your boat, go for it.

Somebody has to

[shut the front door]

I'll admit to using a non-golfers ID# to create a foursome that turns into a threesome when they don't show up. I do not like to play with strangers because every time that I have, I get paired with that idiot who thinks he's on the tour when he's taking 5 or more warmups before EACH swing.

[4$ALE]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

I'll admit to using a non-golfers ID# to create a foursome that turns into a threesome when they don't show up. I do not like to play with strangers because every time that I have, I get paired with that idiot who thinks he's on the tour when he's taking 5 or more warmups before EACH swing.

Doesn't sound like he's the idiot to me????