Originally Posted by Dcurrie911 (Post 2178368)

Let’s cut to the chase. It is a fact that the pitch and putt courses book last, thus they are the least desirable courses to play. Why? It is a fact that 190 yd tee shots are harder than 90 yd tee shots. Contrary to what others may imply. People want to play courses that offer challenges. If you are ok with pitch and putt courses. Or if you are ok with people south of 44 driving north to play then please push back on my post. Otherwise, I am simply asking if there are ways to help influence the developers to build what home owners want.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2179150)

Just looked for exec to play tomorrow, had choices of 17 tee times, at course’s minutes from our house, to 40 minute drive

Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2178964)

Excellent Comment on points system and Pitch & Putts. In addition, I wish there was a way to 'require' new golfers to play Pitch & Putts several times before allowing play on Executives. Then a similar requirement (or HDCP) before playing Championships. I am seeing lot's of slow play and course (unrepaired) damage from new players.
On Origianl Post - More Executives are needs South of Intrerstate too. We don't need three or four Championships down here yet. (East Point area)

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2178978)

I would PREFER virtual golf because then there would be zero fertilizer runoff and zero lake nutrient pollution. And there would be zero gas engine pollution from the polluting grass-cutting equipment.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2178978)

I would PREFER virtual golf because then there would be zero fertilizer runoff and zero lake nutrient pollution. And there would be zero gas engine pollution from the polluting grass-cutting equipment.

Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 2178995)

This time of year I've witnessed a lot more slow play, unrepaired ball marks, bunker rakes laying in the grass, and unfilled divots, the groups behind hitting up before the other group leaves the green. A requirement to attend the Good Golf Class prior to being able to make a tee time would help but, maybe not. Kind of like asking the entitled to drive a golf cart like they have some sense.:22yikes:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2178999)

Actually....thanks I forgot to mention another problem with the larger Golf courses - that they are grass and grass does NOT compare well to TREES when it comes to removing CO2. And MANY, many TREES must get cut down to accommodate a few golfers driving polluting golf carts around when they should be walking. Bad for the planet, but golfers typically care only about themselves, so no surprise there.
..........And incidentally every year the world's forests decrease especially in the Amazon Rain (soon to be desert). If golfers really cared about their next generation, they would require that 5% of the cost of green fees were sent to an organization for preserving the Amazon and other forests. The US forests are all dry and burning as part of Global Warming, which most golfers are quick to ignore. I could say you folks are only "fore" yourselfs, but I won't.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179025)

"Land prep is underway".........that may sound wonderful to a zealous golfer, but I hear it as, " cutting down more trees and having no conscience about the environment or future generations. Forget Pitch and Putt........bigger is ALWAYS BETTER........that is the American frontier motto.......tear up the trees and environment if they get in the WAY of so-called PROGRESS.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179038)

I "walk the walk" I cut my own grass with a relatively non-polluting ELECTRIC lawn mower. And I use small amounts of natural fertilizer and water by hand only sparingly and avoid all the overwatering and maintenance hassles of those dumb pop-up sprinkler heads. And I PLANTED trees 5 years ago. Love my trees! Shade in the summer.
......And I play sports, not golf, which is just a BIG pool table with huge social and environmental costs and little return in healthful exercise. Also to play the bigger courses other than Pitch and Putt, you have to take a driver and wrack and whack your knees, hips, and back in an unnatural motion. With Pitch and Putt, you avoid that extreme golf swing.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179042)

There is some TRUTH to what you say. It is ALWAYS possible to make a case for something, which sometimes is a rationalization. I know for a fact that pheasant and quail eggs are thin-shelled and NOT hatching due to excessive pesticides used in the midwest farms. Now whether the golf courses have excessive pesticide use......I do NOT know for sure, but I suspect that they do. I have seen workers spray some chemical alongside the multi use paths and I watched 2 wild large black land turtles dying from it.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179043)

The "gleefully yelling FORE" was an exaggeration for EFFECT with a little HUMOROUS overtones thrown in for good measure. It IS not unusual for writers to "exaggerate for effect". Other posters have done that in other posts. Why would my humor be bad, but your humor is good? I don't see the logic?

Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2179048)

I wouldn’t buy north of 44 and it’s not because of the PNP courses. You can have all of that shopping mess/crowds, golf carts sharing north Morse rd, all that traffic at each roundabout/466/441, I don’t need it or want it. When I buy from sams I have it delivered so I don’t have to go north. 466 has some nice restaurants but I take the back way to get there. It’s faster for me to go to leesburg for dinner and you get a bigger selection of restaurants with less traffic than north of 44.
I can get to both Brownwood and Sumter by golf cart (with a lot of slow cart traffic) in 30 mins so I’m not that far away

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2179051)

Because I'm funnier than you?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: