[katezbox]

Originally Posted by escapequeen

I have seen several women around TV who look to have had one or more cosmetic changes done and they look horrible. My thought is that if everyday housework and lifting along with walking and maybe using handweights now and then dont do the trick, forget it. ;>D

You got that right!

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Ladies, ladies ladies, my wife and I have been together since age 13. she had asked me sometime ago if she should get a facelifet? I told not to do it for me. If you want it for yourself fine...but please don't come home looking like a stranger. I also deplore women who enlarge their lips. It looks stupid on most of them. Peggy Noonan had the best response to the subject of facelifts...Beauty belongs to the young. I cherish growing old with my wife. She will always be my trophy wife. She will always be beautiful to me and because she is not self centered I find her even more appealing.....Yes beauty truly is skin deep

Rubicon, your wife is a lucky woman.

Re facelifts ..... in my heart I know it is wrong to be so vain. But it is tough looking in the mirror every morning at my grandmother.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Rubicon, your wife is a lucky woman.

Re facelifts ..... in my heart I know it is wrong to be so vain. But it is tough looking in the mirror every morning at my grandmother.

Oh Barefoot, Barefoot, Barefoot......

How many times do I have to tell you girls. All you need to do is get a nice hand-mirror, lie down on your back, smile at yourself in the mirror, kind of makes gravity work in a different direction for a little while, and maybe even crank up a little Santana, and pretend it's the 1970's all over again. And DON'T look in the mirror after you stand back up. Just hold the thought.

(But, damnit, I know. I know. I confess. I know what you mean.)

Oh well. I am a chicken-of-the-knife.

Boomer

[De Lis]

Anyone have a favorite doctor or clinic that they go to for 'procedures'? We are moving to TV shortly and would appreciate some info. Thanks so much.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by De Lis

Anyone have a favorite doctor or clinic that they go to for 'procedures'? We are moving to TV shortly and would appreciate some info. Thanks so much.

The daily newspaper frequently lists free information seminars by plastic surgeons. I know some women who have had "procedures" done, but it's like bad breath, most don't talk about it.

[De Lis]

Thanks, Barefoot, appreciate it. Not interested in anything major or overly expensive. Can't do anything about the aging process, so I have decided that I just want my skin to look clear and healthy. Gosh, you sometimes even need help with that! :>)

[westcoastsunshine]

I sold my medi spa last year and I am now helping
my friend build her business to sell as well.
I specialized in non-invasive anti-aging treatments
because the market has exploded. Most men
and women do not want the risks or downtime
with surgery. In fact, most of the time all I
ever heard from my clients is that they just
wanted to look "fresh" and age gracefully.
In my business, I have seen it all both
surgical and non-surgical. Would I go the
surgical route....no!!
I have seen some rather bad bumps from
thread lifting. Thermage can be painful
and takes at least 6 months to build collagen
to the point where you will notice some changes.
Please remember that any non-invasive treatment
will not make huge changes just very subtle ones.
Thermage is usually very expensive and most clients
end up having to do a couple of treatments even
though the clinic will tell you only 1 is required.
We used a machine called the Accent XL which
results in immediate subtle changes in wrinkles
and facial tightening. Again, you need to be
realistic about your expectations. Only surgery
can make drastic changes. Our clients were
pleased with the results which usually meant
1 painless treatment per month over the course
of 4 months. A tune-up should be done every
6 months for anyone who is post-menopausal.
I am not sure what is available in your area but
perhaps it would be worthwhile getting a consultation
with a clinic who has this machine.

My husband and I are coming to TV November 1st to
'test the waters'. We hope to stay for at least 6 months.
It would be fun to get a group of ladies together to talk
about the newest anti-aging NON-SURGICAL treatments.
I know that Miami is a hot market for all the newest
trends in non-invasive procedures so you can probably
find a good clinic there.

I hope this info helps!

WCS

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Rubicon, your wife is a lucky woman.
facelifts ..... in my heart I know it is wrong to be so vain. But it is tough looking in the mirror every morning at my grandmother.

Barefoot, that's because society has distorted the view of beauty. Ideally I believe the epitome of feminity is the "Gibson Girl . However what makes a woman in my view desirable is that she genuinely likes men...and I mean that in a most respectful manner. Another aspect is that a woman, or for that matter a man always meet people with a smile. Smiles are sexy because they soften the eyes and are so inviting.

Save yourself ten grand and just keep smiling.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Barefoot, that's because society has distorted the view of beauty. However what makes a woman in my view desirable is that she genuinely likes men...and I mean that in a most respectful manner. Another aspect is that a woman, or for that matter a man always meet people with a smile. Smiles are sexy because they soften the eyes and are so inviting.

In my heart I know you're right Rubicon. And I agree that a beautiful spirit shines like a beacon! You have a great perspective ... I'll say it again, your wife is a lucky gal.

[westcoastsunshine]

If only all men thought the same way, women wouldn't
have to spend so much on anti-aging treatments and
products. Plastic surgeons would be out of business,
cosmetic companies would go bust, fashion houses
would dry up, spas would not exist, hair and nail salons
gone....well....you get the picture (and it isn't a pretty one)!!

WCS

[katezbox]

Originally Posted by westcoastsunshine

If only all men thought the same way, women wouldn't
have to spend so much on anti-aging treatments and
products. Plastic surgeons would be out of business,
cosmetic companies would go bust, fashion houses
would dry up, spas would not exist, hair and nail salons
gone....well....you get the picture (and it isn't a pretty one)!!

WCS

WCS - I beg to disagree.... Rubicon thinks his wife is beautiful. My husband (and yes, I know how lucky I am), feels the same way about me.

I cannot speak for Rubicon - so hoping he will chime in - but my hubs has no issue with my clothing and shoe fetishes. He likes when I get my nails done (thinks it is sexy) and also when I turn up the makeup a notch or 6 to go out at night. He also tells me I look beautiful all sweaty and flushed after a five-mile walk.

Maybe it is because our generation grew up with our mothers' skin care treatment limited to cold cream - but I think there is a huge difference between buying clothes and shoes, polishing your nails vs. having 'procedures" done - surgical or otherwise.

Nothing I read in Rubicon's post gave me the idea that he didn't appreciate a dress that this wife felt beautiful in - just that she is beautiful to him without botox (botulism - really - who even thought of this?) and needles and nip/tuck.

I understand that many people are interested in "medical spas" and wanting to look a bit younger. I also have friends who have had significant plastic surgery (implants, tummy tucks, facelifts). All of these are OK if they make you feel better about yourself.

For me, I just need my honey to keep telling me I look beautiful!

k

[Bobcatbob]

I had and "Image Lift" by a Dr. with offices in TV and Tampa. It is painful and I was left with uneven results that then had to be "Tweaked". I hated my neck enough that it was worth it to me but novacaine shots in your face HURT and don't let them tell you they don't! Recovery takes about a week and isn't fun but isn't terrible. My scarring is nothing!!!