[Innserelli]

Originally Posted by Mazjaz

My wife just retired and won’t take Social Security for 5 years. I am considering replacing her income with a Fixed Indexed Annuity with West Financial Group. Has anyone used them or have a fixed indexed annuity they would recommend for immediate income? I am 66.

It depends on you financial needs, goals and comfort. If you need an income stream now, an annuity can fill the need. If you don't need the money right now, there are better investments, all of which have been mentioned previously. An S&P 500 ETF can be expected to deliver about 8% over the long haul, and is "fairly" safe. If you have time, such an ETF or other investment will probably net you more. However, if you feel the stock market is shaky or your risk tolerance is very low, once again, an annuity could be a good investment for you.

[daniel200]

Originally Posted by Innserelli

It depends on you financial needs, goals and comfort. If you need an income stream now, an annuity can fill the need. If you don't need the money right now, there are better investments, all of which have been mentioned previously. An S&P 500 ETF can be expected to deliver about 8% over the long haul, and is "fairly" safe. If you have time, such an ETF or other investment will probably net you more. However, if you feel the stock market is shaky or your risk tolerance is very low, once again, an annuity could be a good investment for you.

The OP stated he is 66.

I agree with your comment that the S&P500 has historically returned 8% over the long term. However, if you look at the S&P500 historical rolling 10 year return, you will find that there has been been 10 year periods where investors lost money. So “longterm” is very important

If you are in your 20’s, 30’s or 40’s, then you have the “long term” advantage on your side because you will not need the funds until far in the future.

However, a 66 year old who needs the income in the next 5 or 10 years, should not expect 8% returns because they will be removing capital if the market is down. If however, you are a wealthy 66 year old and will not need any of the money invested in the S&P500 for 15 or 20 years, then an 8% return is much more realistic

[chuck.grospitch@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

West Financial is very informed. They just tell you what is best for them. He told us to avoid the stock market and go into annuities.

His motto was basically Stock market leads to losses while annuities makes money

Even told us Warren Buffet is a fan of annuities

IMHO, West will always make the first and second choice an annuity. He even suggested we lie about not being married at one point in an answer to a question on beneficiaries etc......Blackstone or TB Financial are two companies you can trust. While they too may offer you an annuity solution, at least they are honest an above board. We will never use West again after his suggestions to lie and his tactic to only sell us an annuity vs. what was asked for.

[Babubhat]

Vanguard or Fidelity. You want the lowest fees. Why pay an advisor who adds no value? There is nothing special about annuities other than unnecessary fees. You are paying for their ads, free dinners, suits and other extraneous costs. It’s your money. Belongs in your pocket. If the SEC did their job these products would be banned

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Vanguard or Fidelity. You want the lowest fees. Why pay an advisor who adds no value? There is nothing special about annuities other than unnecessary fees. You are paying for their ads, free dinners, suits and other extraneous costs. It’s your money. Belongs in your pocket

I agree with you, if someone needs an independent advisor can see a fee only one but an ongoing percentage of your money does not seem necessary.

The dinner at least was fine.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

IMHO ..... give a call to Blackston Financial (they are on Rt. 466 not far from the Morse Blvd. gate) and ask for Travis. He is one of their fiduciary people. I've done well by him for the last six years.

Aren’t they one of the firms that offer lots of parties and free dinners?

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Mlundberg

My spouse was a senior vice president of a financial firm. She quit her job because she could not live with herself because of the high fees, surrender charges, and unethical behavior of her firm selling annuities.

Buyer be aware. Do not get sucked into the hype.

now if that isn't the definition of inside information, I don't know what better one is.

[Babubhat]

You never buy from an advisory company. These people are SALESMAN. You might as well be buying real estate from Glengarry, Glen Ross

Go to Vanguard if you must. Shareholder owned

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Vanguard or Fidelity. You want the lowest fees. Why pay an advisor who adds no value? There is nothing special about annuities other than unnecessary fees. You are paying for their ads, free dinners, suits and other extraneous costs. It’s your money. Belongs in your pocket. If the SEC did their job these products would be banned

Not the SEC, but Congress. The insurance lobby spent billions to convince Congress to pass a law that allows life insurance products to act like a retirement plan, so that the earnings are tax deferred. All annuities have a minimal death benefit that allows them to be classified as a life insurance product, even though the death benefit is practically worthless. Therefore, the earnings on an annuity are tax deferred. All life insurance products must have a death benefit to have tax deferred earnings. Tax deferral is one of the primary selling points that annuity salespeople use to sell annuities.