[Rickmartin]

CCW IS is a deterent . When people are aware that CCW exist they think twice about committing a crime. TV also has a very Large amount of retired Veterans. Contrare to some peoples belief,not all Villagers are Drunks!

Originally Posted by Babbs1957

The house with the burglar alarm signs and cameras cause the criminal to move on to those houses without.

The idea behind CCW is the similar to the idea of having police on every corner. A city that supports their police and their judicial system sends a message to criminals that it's better to move on to another location to create your crimes.

A state that supports CCW sends the message to criminals that it's best not to come here and commit your crimes. Sure there will always be criminals, but pure animals would come into this country and go to those locations where they had little to no fear of arrest or life stopping arrest.

I'm all for sending the message that this area and Florida is against crime. This way the animals of the world will go to other states where they can be supported.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Rickmartin

CCW IS is a deterent . When people are aware that CCW exist they think twice about committing a crime. TV also has a very Large amount of retired Veterans. Contrare to some peoples belief,not all Villagers are Drunks!

Some are . And some have dementia or Alzheimer's.

[coleprice]

Once again, it looks like law enforcement did a good job stopping and arresting a really bad person before he killed someone. But, for so many people to have been assaulted, it must have taken a little time to catch up with and arrest the shooter. It's a miracle that nobody was wounded or killed . . . after all, he shot into an occupied vehicle. Florida's law enforcement is wonderful, especially when compared to California, the state from which I moved. Also, Florida's Constitutional Carry and Stand Your Ground laws empower law abiding citizens to stop violent offenders like this shooter. If an armed citizen were at the scene they could have disarmed the suspect or shot him if he resisted to ensure that innocent people aren't wounded or killed.

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by Normal

The lady in the Cadillac did just that and the perp just missed her. The perp fired into her car at Colony Plaza but didn’t lead his shot so it went through the back seat door and into the dash.

She is alive, so it worked. No reason to confront a man with a gun.

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by coleprice

Once again, it looks like law enforcement did a good job stopping and arresting a really bad person before he killed someone. But, for so many people to have been assaulted, it must have taken a little time to catch up with and arrest the shooter. It's a miracle that nobody was wounded or killed . . . after all, he shot into an occupied vehicle. Florida's law enforcement is wonderful, especially when compared to California, the state from which I moved. Also, Florida's Constitutional Carry and Stand Your Ground laws empower law abiding citizens to stop violent offenders like this shooter. If an armed citizen were at the scene they could have disarmed the suspect or shot him if he resisted to ensure that innocent people aren't wounded or killed.

I am sure the police in California or any other state would have handled this situation in the same manner. I wonder how many minutes it took for the police to arrive in this incident.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by kingofbeer

I am sure the police in California or any other state would have handled this situation in the same manner. I wonder how many minutes it took for the police to arrive in this incident.

I did not see anything about the timeline in the Villages Daily Sun coverage today.

I always worry about innocent bystanders when wanna-be Rambos get involved.

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Wow! Not too many rifles chambered in .357. I used to have one, a Marlin 1894C.
As for your last sentence, I liken fear of guns to racism. Ignorance breeds fear.

Accidents never happen around guns. Have you heard of Terry Kath ?
The tragic death of Chicago’s Terry Kath

[Heytubes]

Yup. Let the police handle these events? Let’s see…..it takes several minutes for the police to arrive. Better to have someone with a weapon on site instantly verses letting the perp kill without interference until the police arrive after a number of victims are dead. Guess some folks never heard about the Lum’s massacre. Had the daughter ignored the NO GUNS ALLOWED sign her parents and the other victims would still be alive.

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by Heytubes

Yup. Let the police handle these events? Let’s see…..it takes several minutes for the police to arrive. Better to have someone with a weapon on site instantly verses letting the perp kill without interference until the police arrive after a number of victims are dead. Guess some folks never heard about the Lum’s massacre. Had the daughter ignored the NO GUNS ALLOWED sign her parents and the other victims would still be alive.

Never heard of it. I guess she ignored the sign.

[justjim]

Sounds like a “nut case”. Unfortunately, not enough is being spent on mental health when the State has a surplus of funds. Just my opinion.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

And so are bullets coming out of a weapon of a drunk who cannot shoot straight.

The Old West towns had rules about guns in towns for good reasons. And these were usually men in the prime of their live blowing off steam.

I have no problem with a professionally trained concealed gun carrier. But there probably fewer of these out there than a person who is itching to pull a gun.

Come on Tal, you know you want me by your side if the doo doo hits the fan. I don't drink and I'm beyond well trained.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Come on Tal, you know you want me by your side if the doo doo hits the fan. I don't drink and I'm beyond well trained.

I would be very privileged by your presence.

[jimmy o]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal.

WHAT! Listen to yourself. A villager carrying a loaded gun or a criminal? The villager carrying the gun is carrying for protection both his and believe it or not, yours too. However the criminal carrying a loaded gun is looking to perform a crime and willing to shoot you to do it. But you prefer the criminal having the gun, yikes!

[Pennyt]

Originally Posted by SaucyJim

Your worries are misplaced. There are many of us around you exercising our rights to conceal carry all the time. Your ignorance is embarrassing you. But I forgive you, for you know not what you do.

Sorry, but having elderly people and many on a variety of drugs, carrying concealed weapons doesn't make me feel safer. Shaking hands, off balance, not familiar with gun operation, sure that sounds safe. (just because you can buy a gun doesn't mean you know how to use it) I heard from a security policeman once that the worst thing that can happen is for people in a group to be armed when the police show up. Consider that the police have no idea who the "criminal" is among a bunch of people holding weapons. So, you could be shot yourself. There are most likely many more elderly people holding weapons in The Villages than there are criminals. Now that's scary!

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by jimmy o

WHAT! Listen to yourself. A villager carrying a loaded gun or a criminal? The villager carrying the gun is carrying for protection both his and believe it or not, yours too. However the criminal carrying a loaded gun is looking to perform a crime and willing to shoot you to do it. But you prefer the criminal having the gun, yikes!

He or she did not seem to say that. We need to respect the police and count on them to do their jobs well. If a situation arises in which you can save lives by taking one then more power to you. But I have lived in the Villages for more than twenty years and those have never happened that I can recall. There was a mess last year maybe but I am still very unclear about what happened on that night. There have been instances of SWAT being called because a Villager or a relative or in law of some kind had a mental breakdown. Guy in his house barricading himself with his guns.


The Villages does seem safe but it seems to be more related to all the guns in homes and security measures here in the Villages. Not so much concealed carrying.