[Berwin]

LOL, thinking back to my youth in Texas where the drinking age was 18.

[Nordhagen]

Originally Posted by The Gazette

An investigation into convenience stores in Sumter County selling alcohol to minors has revealed multiple stores violated state law, including three stores in The Villages. The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office was prompted to launch a special investigation after receiving multiple complaints of underage alcohol purchases from convenience stores throughout the county. In an effort to

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First of all, I’m not condoning liquor sales to minors. With that said, I don’t understand how law enforcement can break the law to get you to break the law. It is illegal for a minor to purchase liquor, yet they use a minor to do just that.
Sounds like entrapment.

[Chamo]

Everybody has an opinion on what to do. I guess it’s cheaper than getting Therapy in an office.

[barbnick]

It’s a law. Obey the law

[Angelhug52]

Originally Posted by Win1894

I think a more effective approach would be to have the underage booze purchaser spend a week or so in jail, especially if they committed fraud by using a fake ID to make the purchase. That could be more effective than punishing the seller.

And put their parent or grandparents in jail with them. Unfortunately our civilized culture today doesn't have the same values or respect like it did 50, 60, 70 years ago. When so called adults allow youngsters to not follow law and rules what do you think happens.

[maggie1]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

What a waste of time and money. Who thinks that enforcing illegal sales to minors will stop underage drinking?

Probably not, but it has to begin somewhere. It matters little if Mom and Dad preach the evils of underage drinking because kids hardly listen to what old folks have to say until it comes back to bite them in the butt.

I was an Ohio State Trooper for 28 years, and the toughest part of the job was to deliver a death message to a parent of an underage drinker who was killed in a traffic crash, and I delivered my fair share of that news. I think the laws should be stronger against both parties (kids and salespeople) instead of rationalizing that kids are going to drink anyway, so why use this money to penalize the salespeople who sell it to them? Perhaps Publix has an answer for that. Here are some 2022 statistics on juveniles involved in traffic fatalities and injuries while under the influence of alcohol. If this doesn't prompt a change in some thinking, I don't know what will.

"According to Ohio State Highway Patrol data, around 14% of teen fatalities in Ohio involved alcohol, while 42% of teen fatalities involved operating a vehicle while impaired, indicating a significant presence of impaired juvenile drivers in traffic crashes within the state; further, teen drivers are involved in a substantial portion of crashes overall, with 27% of crashes involving teens resulting in injuries."

Does anyone know if the next driver approaching them is a drunk juvenile, or a drunk driver, period? The answer is no.

[SaucyJim]

Originally Posted by The Gazette

An investigation into convenience stores in Sumter County selling alcohol to minors has revealed multiple stores violated state law, including three stores in The Villages. The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office was prompted to launch a special investigation after receiving multiple complaints of underage alcohol purchases from convenience stores throughout the county. In an effort to

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I'd be outraged, but need to know the age. If they are 18 or older, they are old enough to be sent to war. If that's the case, they are old enough to drink. The government should not have it both ways. Either you're an adult or you are not.

Now, if they are five years old, that's another story. LOL!!

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by Nordhagen

First of all, I’m not condoning liquor sales to minors. With that said, I don’t understand how law enforcement can break the law to get you to break the law. It is illegal for a minor to purchase liquor, yet they use a minor to do just that.
Sounds like entrapment.

So a cop can't speed to catch up to a speeder? Can't "Lights N Siren" their way through an intersection to catch up to someone who ran a red light? They gotta sit and wait for it to turn green before they can give chase - not violating the speed limit while they do so?

They are not breaking the law by sending in a minor - an "agent of the government." They are presenting the clerk with the opportunity for them to break the law. No law against a minor TRYING to buy alcohol.

Yeah- makes perfect sense.

[aces_04]

The clerks are trained to look at ID before selling. There are reminders at every cash register. We know the obvious older customers but sometimes we are busy and it slips our mind. It’s still the law and we are ultimately responsible. Let me repeat that the employee is responsible. I feel bad for the employee.

Originally Posted by Nordhagen

First of all, I’m not condoning liquor sales to minors. With that said, I don’t understand how law enforcement can break the law to get you to break the law. It is illegal for a minor to purchase liquor, yet they use a minor to do just that.
Sounds like entrapment.

[schwarz]

They should go after bartenders that serve much too much alcohol to individuals. They create drunk drivers

[Two Bills]

It's a dumb law that should have been changed years ago.
18yo is more realistic, and 16-17 with a meal when accompanied by an adult.
That law works fine all over UK.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

My comment was about wasting time and money. The same laws were in effect when I was a teenager, but they never prevented me from drinking beer. I don't believe that law enforcement has made any progress in this area in the past 60 years. But, they continue to waste taxpayer money. My opinion.

Let's just eliminate the drinking age entirely. You want a shot of whiskey, little 10-year-old kid? No problem. What's that, 15-year-old kid who doesn't have a drivers license yet? You want a case of beer? Sure thing. Because everyone knows you're mature enough to handle it.

The point, is that they're not supposed to be drinking alcohol outside of the assumed safety of their own home, with parental supervision. Kids are kids - many of them just don't know any better, they're immature - because - they're kids. They're supposed to be immature. Adults are supposed to know better, and are supposed to be the responsible ones in the situation. And so - adults in the relationship of "person who wants to buy a drug in a bottle that can cause intoxication and death versus person who has the drug in the bottle and makes money selling it" - are made responsible for the outcome of that relationship.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I agree, but they have been doing the same thing for at least 60 years and it doesn't work. They are just ripping off the taxpayers. Conducting a "sting" is ridiculous. If anyone thinks a teenager cannot get beer, I have a bridge to sell them.

If anyone thinks a drug addict can't get drugs, I have a bridge to sell them. So let's just legalize heroin and fentanyl. They're no more addictive than alcohol, and all three of these things can kill someone who uses too much.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by jimhoward

In Tennessee, where I am from, they scan everyone’s license on every alcohol purchase. In Florida and particularly in the villages they don’t seem to do that. The clerk uses their judgement. An obvious villagers retiree does not get asked for ID. But it only takes a few seconds to scan the IDs. If all purchases have a birthdate on them then underage sales are reduced because the clerk can’t just look the other way, they have to actually enter a fraudulent date.

I wish they would just scan licenses 100%.

In Connecticut, we were required to check everyone's ID because the law was - you have to present one in order to buy booze. So any cashier who did NOT check - was breaking the law, and any customer who bought booze without showing their ID - no matter how old they were - was also breaking the law.

It's not a "close-down" violation, it's a citation as long as the person buying is over 21. But cashier have absolutely been given citations for NOT checking a customer's ID, regardless of how old they looked.

No ID, no service.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

...So let's just legalize heroin and fentanyl. They're no more addictive than alcohol, and all three of these things can kill someone who uses too much.

Yes, yes they are. They may not be as damaging (societaly, economically, etc.) as alcohol as alcohol abuse is far more prevalent, but it is certainly NOT more addictive.

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