[The Gazette]

Utility districts consider buying 36,000-plus automated meters for Central Sumter, South Sumter and Fenney customers.

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[Sparky99]

How long does it take to break even? 20 years?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Sparky99

How long does it take to break even? 20 years?

I believe that analysis was done two years ago before the project was started. I don't recall what the answer was.

One thing to keep in mind is current meters are beginning to fail. Both of my meters failed and one (or possibly two) of a friend in the same area has also failed. There was going to be a cost to replace failed meters anyway - this takes that opportunity to bring the system up to date while reducing the manpower required for reading.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I believe that analysis was done two years ago before the project was started. I don't recall what the answer was.

One thing to keep in mind is current meters are beginning to fail. Both of my meters failed and one (or possibly two) of a friend in the same area has also failed. There was going to be a cost to replace failed meters anyway - this takes that opportunity to bring the system up to date while reducing the manpower required for reading.

"reducing the manpower" ie: more jobs eliminated. Not exactly a win-win for the area when the cost of the meters and eventual failure or maintenance needed for said meters evolve.

[biker1]

Improvements in technology have been reducing jobs for essentially the history of mankind. As I understand it, a vehicle will still need to drive through the neighborhood to collect data instead of using a wand on each meter. This is somewhat different than the new electric meters that were installed a couple of years ago and essentially "phone home" the data.

Originally Posted by Aces4

"reducing the manpower" ie: more jobs eliminated. Not exactly a win-win for the area when the cost of the meters and eventual failure or maintenance needed for said meters evolve.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by biker1

Improvements in technology have been reducing jobs for essentially the history of mankind. As I understand it, a vehicle will still need to drive through the neighborhood to collect data instead of using a wand on each meter. This is somewhat different than the new electric meters that were installed a couple of years ago and essentially "phone home" the data.

Which job losses equate to those who work or receive SS having less income so the unemployed can live too.

[biker1]

So, you are suggesting that progress should stop so that obsolete jobs can continue? Find someone else to argue with as I don't waste my time with such nonsense.

Originally Posted by Aces4

Which job losses equate to those who work or receive SS having less income so the unemployed can live too.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by biker1

Improvements in technology have been reducing jobs for essentially the history of mankind. As I understand it, a vehicle will still need to drive through the neighborhood to collect data instead of using a wand on each meter. This is somewhat different than the new electric meters that were installed a couple of years ago and essentially "phone home" the data.

The local utilities (basically the District) decided on AMR (truck) vs AMI (phone home) based on cost. Some on the NSCUDD board argued vigorously for AMI or even quasi-AMI but AMR was chosen.

[twoplanekid]

Can't change things now as the process of replacing meters is more than 50% completed. The NSCUDD board spent a lot of time evaluating this change to the meters a long time ago.

Have fun talking.

[biggamefish1]

These meters can also be read by satellites

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by biggamefish1

These meters can also be read by satellites

It will be far, far cheaper for the District to drive around the neighborhood once a month than to buy and launch a satellite.

[biggamefish1]

Sounds like a reasonable excuse, but the satellites are already up there and in use. I have seen this for over 30 years in other places. This is the 21st Century

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by biggamefish1

Sounds like a reasonable excuse, but the satellites are already up there and in use. I have seen this for over 30 years in other places. This is the 21st Century

Wait, the Villages owns some satellites???

If your point is that satellites can be sensitive enough to pick up the weak meter signal, sure.

If you are asserting that anyone with the money to put up a satellite has an interest in the water usage patterns of a Florida retirement community, highly unlikely.

If someone did care about my water usage, there are much cheaper and easier ways to get the data. The last thing I'm worried about is a Chinese spy reading my water meter.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

It will be far, far cheaper for the District to drive around the neighborhood once a month than to buy and launch a satellite.

Village’s don’t have too. Eldon did it for them, just got to pay Eldon small fee…

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Wait, the Villages owns some satellites???

If your point is that satellites can be sensitive enough to pick up the weak meter signal, sure.

If you are asserting that anyone with the money to put up a satellite has an interest in the water usage patterns of a Florida retirement community, highly unlikely.

If someone did care about my water usage, there are much cheaper and easier ways to get the data. The last thing I'm worried about is a Chinese spy reading my water meter.

The details on the satelite proposal is in the minutes online. Yes, they have an interest in the water usage patters of not only us but other communities in the Country.