[SHIBUMI]

Hi, Buckle Up! Take a deep breathe and relax, some visuals and thinking involved.

What makes a pendulum and a metronome go back and forth straight?

The answer... they are both secured at the base. Pendulum screwed in at the top and a metronome screwed in at the bottom. In no way, do either bases rotate. They are both secured so the movement of the moving part doesn't wobble.

The back of your left hand is the face of the putter, of the golf club as well, but I digress.
If the back of your left hand rotates in any way the face opens or closes, missed putt.

Lefthand low firms up the left hand, claw grip firms up the left to move the right hand,
the long putter has the left hand anchoring the end of the putter so the right hand can move it back and forth, thats why no body anchoring is allowed, its too much of an advantage to better anchoring.

All of the putting styles have as a goal the anchoring of the left hand so there is no wobble in the back of the left hand and thusly no wobble in the face of the club. Jack Nicklaus had a pronounced forward press that secured the left hand and he hit it like a piston with the right hand. Tiger locks in the lefthand and then swings his shoulders, or so he says.

While some argue over an inside backswing path( Faxon) and some argue over a straight back path(Pelz) the real culprit is the anchor, back of the left hand, wobbles one way or the other and thus the face of the club not being hit solidly creating distance and direction issues. Most players miss hit putts than read the break wrong. Back of left hand wobbles and the face is not square at impact.

Wow! This is too simple........... people adopt different putting styles and they don't know why, it just seems better. The real reason is that the style they do better is the one that keeps left hand wobble at a minimum. They just don't know that, but know you do.

Take your putter and hold it with your fingers dangling down. Swing the shaft back and forth and if it goes straight your grip pressure is correct. If it wobbles, increase your grip pressure until it doesn't wobble. That is your left hand grip pressure needed. You now see how a pendulum works. I see a metronome as an upside down pendulum. One anchored at the top and the other at the bottom.

So the answer to YOUR putting style is the one that creates less back of the left hand wobble. Simply put, a little tighter left hand grip. Too easy. All of the other putting issues are there, feeling distance and seeing direction, BUT, any wobble causes a non square face at impact and while your feels of distance and direction may have been correct, the wobble destroys that. So you may be better at distance and direction than you think, your wobble won't translate your feel.

Maybe if you knew this, those 12 putters you have bought in your lifetime might have never happened. But, this is not meant to destroy the putter industry, it is flourishing and a new putter makes people feel good, but in a month that putter gets to know you and it is doing the same thing(Lee Trevino). You can buy that $400. putter but it will still work badly if you have left hand wobble. But, you're proud you have a $400. putter. Same with golf clubs, can't buy a swing, learn the mechanics first. The ball doesn't move, you have to move correctly.

Jack Nicklaus wrote a book, Golf My Way! The key is in the title. It's not your way it's his way. Tiger Woods Book, How I Play the Game. How he plays, not you! Find the putting style that helps diminish your left hand wobble and you will take 6-8 shots off your score. It's the simplest way to game improvement and your sanity. NC

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

Hi, Buckle Up! Take a deep breathe and relax, some visuals and thinking involved.

What makes a pendulum and a metronome go back and forth straight?

The answer... they are both secured at the base. Pendulum screwed in at the top and a metronome screwed in at the bottom. In no way, do either bases rotate. They are both secured so the movement of the moving part doesn't wobble.

The back of your left hand is the face of the putter, of the golf club as well, but I digress.
If the back of your left hand rotates in any way the face opens or closes, missed putt.

Lefthand low firms up the left hand, claw grip firms up the left to move the right hand,
the long putter has the left hand anchoring the end of the putter so the right hand can move it back and forth, thats why no body anchoring is allowed, its too much of an advantage to better anchoring.

All of the putting styles have as a goal the anchoring of the left hand so there is no wobble in the back of the left hand and thusly no wobble in the face of the club. Jack Nicklaus had a pronounced forward press that secured the left hand and he hit it like a piston with the right hand. Tiger locks in the lefthand and then swings his shoulders, or so he says.

While some argue over an inside backswing path( Faxon) and some argue over a straight back path(Pelz) the real culprit is the anchor, back of the left hand, wobbles one way or the other and thus the face of the club not being hit solidly creating distance and direction issues. Most players miss hit putts than read the break wrong. Back of left hand wobbles and the face is not square at impact.

Wow! This is too simple........... people adopt different putting styles and they don't know why, it just seems better. The real reason is that the style they do better is the one that keeps left hand wobble at a minimum. They just don't know that, but know you do.

Take your putter and hold it with your fingers dangling down. Swing the shaft back and forth and if it goes straight your grip pressure is correct. If it wobbles, increase your grip pressure until it doesn't wobble. That is your left hand grip pressure needed. You now see how a pendulum works. I see a metronome as an upside down pendulum. One anchored at the top and the other at the bottom.

So the answer to YOUR putting style is the one that creates less back of the left hand wobble. Simply put, a little tighter left hand grip. Too easy. All of the other putting issues are there, feeling distance and seeing direction, BUT, any wobble causes a non square face at impact and while your feels of distance and direction may have been correct, the wobble destroys that. So you may be better at distance and direction than you think, your wobble won't translate your feel.

Maybe if you knew this, those 12 putters you have bought in your lifetime might have never happened. But, this is not meant to destroy the putter industry, it is flourishing and a new putter makes people feel good, but in a month that putter gets to know you and it is doing the same thing(Lee Trevino). You can buy that $400. putter but it will still work badly if you have left hand wobble. But, you're proud you have a $400. putter. Same with golf clubs, can't buy a swing, learn the mechanics first. The ball doesn't move, you have to move correctly.

Jack Nicklaus wrote a book, Golf My Way! The key is in the title. It's not your way it's his way. Tiger Woods Book, How I Play is the same. How he plays, not you! Find the putting style that helps diminish your left hand wobble and you will take 6-8 shots off your score. It's the simplest way to game improvement and your sanity. NC

That all may be true, for someone who uses their left hand as a fulcrum (particularly those who use a "long putter").

It's completely untrue for most players and surely for the vast majority of PGA Tour players.

I think people have been spending too much time, watching L.A.B. Putters "Revealer" video ... which the majority of Tour players think is nonsense.

Take 6-8 shots off your score? If the average 16 handicap golfer could statistically putt as well as a PGA Tour Pro, he'd save approximately 4 strokes per round (this according to Mark Broadie, the inventor of the "strokes gained" metric).

The fact of the matter is, the average golfer putts way better than he thinks he does. When watching golfers on TV, we're only seeing the leaders ... the guys who are putting well at the moment. Not a fair basis.

[SHIBUMI]

The left hand is the fulcrum in putting for all styles, except left hand players. It would be the right hand. It is the face of the club. Once it wobbles = miss hit

Average golfer (24 hdcp)(ages 60-70+) 3 putts three times a round. If he or she one putts a few than 6 or 8 is reachable. The higher the handicap the more reachable as 3 putts grow with handicaps.

The lower handicapper may have 1, 3 putt a round, BUT, they will make 3 more putts
with a square club face.

This is not LABS just common mechanical sense. Once the fulcrum is set, you can putt with your arms, shoulders, hand, wrist, forearms, whatever gives you feel.

Whatever style you are, stabilize the left hand, tighten, a little bit at time to find your square face, and you too will make more putts. If you have 36 putts per round, it won't take much to get to 32. If you have more than 36 its a gimme to get lower.

Give it a try and let us know...........

Originally Posted by BrianL99

That all may be true, for someone who uses their left hand as a fulcrum (particularly those who use a "long putter").

It's completely untrue for most players and surely for the vast majority of PGA Tour players.

I think people have been spending too much time, watching L.A.B. Putters "Revealer" video ... which the majority of Tour players think is nonsense.

Take 6-8 shots off your score? If the average 16 handicap golfer could statistically putt as well as a PGA Tour Pro, he'd save approximately 4 strokes per round (this according to Mark Broadie, the inventor of the "strokes gained" metric).

The fact of the matter is, the average golfer putts way better than he thinks he does. When watching golfers on TV, we're only seeing the leaders ... the guys who are putting well at the moment. Not a fair basis.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

The left hand is the fulcrum in putting for all styles, except left hand players. It would be the right hand. It is the face of the club. Once it wobbles = miss hit

Average golfer (24 hdcp) 3 putts three times a round. If he or she one putts a few than 6 or 8 is reachable. The higher the handicap the more reachable as 3 putts grow with handicaps.


Give it a try and let us know...........

The fulcrum for a golf swing, is the left shoulder socket.

The fulcrum for a traditional putting "swing" for most professional golfers, is approximately 1/2 way from their "belt" to their "shoulders". There is no fulcrum in the hands.

As for "giving it a try" ... i don't think so.

The PGA Tour average for Putts per rounds, through last week's tournament, is 28.96. My average over the last 1200 rounds is a touch over 32. 31.14 over the last 20 rounds. My Strokes Gained Putting, hovers around Even. The average PGA Touring Pro averages about 73 feet of putts holed, per round. When I used track that, I was at about 75'. (Neither of those 2 metrics are all that informative, I'm a better than average putter ... no more, no less.)

If you'd like a putting lesson, I'm happy to help ... no charge.

[SHIBUMI]

32 putts means you chipped 4 close to the hole for gimmies and 2 putted the rest... not a stellar putting performance........

you can use anything as a fulcrum, the crux of the matter is face wobble. This is prevented by left hand pressure to keep club face square.

If the pro's hit 13 greens, (mostly)then 5 greens are gimmies, thats 31 putts, so they make 3 one putts to get to 28.......... not stellar as well

Would prefer a putting lesson from someone who isn't just average......and who realizes that a non square face at impact means poor putting: focus there and you too could be better. coolsmiley:

thats

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The fulcrum for a golf swing, is the left shoulder socket.

The fulcrum for a traditional putting "swing" for most professional golfers, is approximately 1/2 way from their "belt" to their "shoulders". There is no fulcrum in the hands.

As for "giving it a try" ... i don't think so.

The PGA Tour average for Putts per rounds, through last week's tournament, is 28.96. My average over the last 1200 rounds is a touch over 32. 31.14 over the last 20 rounds. My Strokes Gained Putting, hovers around Even. The average PGA Touring Pro averages about 73 feet of putts holed, per round. When I used track that, I was at about 75'. (Neither of those 2 metrics are all that informative, I'm a better than average putter ... no more, no less.)

If you'd like a putting lesson, I'm happy to help ... no charge.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

If the pro's hit 13 greens, (mostly)then 5 greens are gimmies, thats 31 putts, so they make 3 one putts to get to 28.......... not stellar as well

Perhaps there's room on the PGA Tour, for someone to teach Scottie Scheffler how he can improve his putting with a solid left hand? He averaged 28.32 Putts per round. Not stellar.

If Scottie knew what he was doing, maybe he would have made more than the $29.2M he made on the PGA Tour last year.

[SHIBUMI]

He did change from previous year. He changed to a heavier headed putter so he could feel and secure that left hand from wobble. Any change that minimizes wobble will improve your putting. So Simple....

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Perhaps there's room on the PGA Tour, for someone to teach Scottie Scheffler how he can improve his putting with a solid left hand? He averaged 28.32 Putts per round. Not stellar.

If Scottie knew what he was doing, maybe he would have made more than the $29.2M he made on the PGA Tour last year.

[Two Bills]

Line it up, then hit it.
All this technical mumbo jumbo confuses and ruins 90% of golfers.


PS. I was a pretty good putter, my only weakness/problem was which of my 25 putters to use on the day.

[SHIBUMI]

ignore all the words and just tighten your left hand on the putter a little more than you have been. ...NC

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Line it up, then hit it.
All this technical mumbo jumbo confuses and ruins 90% of golfers.


PS. I was a pretty good putter, my only weakness/problem was which of my 25 putters to use on the day.

[SHIBUMI]

Try telling that to John Rahm, Arnold Palmer, or Jim Furyck.............
Golf Swings come in 2 catagories, Left Side lead(left shoulder socket) and Right side lead
(Right Shoulder socket) both are correct depending on the golfers preference. And obviously, Rahm, Palmer, Furyck, produced results. (there are more)

The average golfer, especially seniors, need to find which side leads and make it lead in the backswing and downswing. One side leads one side follows, just have to find your best co-ordination. Instant results once discovered.

There are golf swings on paper then there are golf swings in reality. Golfers are like snowflakes, all different so their reality has to be discovered. But it can only happen if you're looking in the right place. Find your best lead side......... NC

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The fulcrum for a golf swing, is the left shoulder socket.

The fulcrum for a traditional putting "swing" for most professional golfers, is approximately 1/2 way from their "belt" to their "shoulders". There is no fulcrum in the hands.

As for "giving it a try" ... i don't think so.

The PGA Tour average for Putts per rounds, through last week's tournament, is 28.96. My average over the last 1200 rounds is a touch over 32. 31.14 over the last 20 rounds. My Strokes Gained Putting, hovers around Even. The average PGA Touring Pro averages about 73 feet of putts holed, per round. When I used track that, I was at about 75'. (Neither of those 2 metrics are all that informative, I'm a better than average putter ... no more, no less.)

If you'd like a putting lesson, I'm happy to help ... no charge.

[michgary]

Always heard you need to focus the line of putt with your dominant eye (yes every one has one). If you dont do that you are screwed no matter what else you do...

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by michgary

Always heard you need to focus the line of putt with your dominant eye (yes every one has one). If you dont do that you are screwed no matter what else you do...

Most everyone's eyes will automatically adapt. I have an usual amount of diversion, which I've known about since my first Flight Medical. It can be a pain, landing on a narrow runway, but you learn to adjust.

In putting, it's typically more of a problem if your "cross-dominant" (left-handed, but right eye dominant). About 70% of the population is right-eye dominant and 90% of the world is right-handed. If you fall between the gaps, it might help to change ball position when putting.

For anyone who has a high amount of diversion in one eye, you might try this experiment. Drive an automobile with automatic steering and pay attention to what you see, when your auto-drive puts you in the middle of the travel lane (in the middle of the white markings). You might be shocked at how far off you are, when driving manually.

[SHIBUMI]

Eye dominance can be overcome very easily.

Changing ball position will change impact point and create bad contact.

Instead, find a target 2 or 3 feet in front of ball to aim at. Any vision can do that even cross eyed. Bringing your target closer is the best bet.

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Most everyone's eyes will automatically adapt. I have an usual amount of diversion, which I've known about since my first Flight Medical. It can be a pain, landing on a narrow runway, but you learn to adjust.

In putting, it's typically more of a problem if your "cross-dominant" (left-handed, but right eye dominant). About 70% of the population is right-eye dominant and 90% of the world is right-handed. If you fall between the gaps, it might help to change ball position when putting.

For anyone who has a high amount of diversion in one eye, you might try this experiment. Drive an automobile with automatic steering and pay attention to what you see, when your auto-drive puts you in the middle of the travel lane (in the middle of the white markings). You might be shocked at how far off you are, when driving manually.

[Flyers999]

90-second putting tip from Tom Watson. He recommends adjusting the left wrist position, albeit for sloped greens. I always thought one should take the same putt on left/right breaking putts, just aim at a different spot. I adjust the left wrist position on full shots, but not putts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7LHOrQtd28

My favorite thing is to look at the hole and lift the left shoulder at impact on putts. This stops me from moving my head and coming over the top with my right hand. I have a tendency to do the latter on full shots too, so sometimes I do the left shoulder lift on full shots.