I heard through the grapevine so I know not if it's true that the head of golf management has been fired. Anyone have any definite info on any firings ?

[Polar Bear]

Mallory Caroline yesterday: 3.5-4. Some bare/rough areas, but generally good (both greens and fairways) and very enjoyable overall.

[Russ_Boston]

Lopez was in excellent condition today - greens, fairways and rough.

[collie1228]

Hacienda Hills greens and fairways were very playable yesterday. We did note a speed difference between Oaks and Palms. Palms greens were slower, but still good.

[dewilson58]

Evans Prairie was good.

[mickey100]

We found Lopez to be good the other day.

[jdguscinski]

Originally Posted by mikeod

LOL. I do understand that. It's just that this is a community of around 100-120K with the equivalent of sixteen 18 hole golf courses. (I considered two 27 hole courses as the equivalent of three 18 hole courses.) I can't believe there is another place of similar population with that many courses within its boundaries. And that's not even considering the executive courses. If you ask someone if sixteen courses are enough for a general population of 100-120K, they would think about half that would be fine. The difference is that we are able to play every day, if desired, whereas areas with a smaller retiree population don't have the everyday volume.

Please understand I am not trying to minimize your concerns. It just seems hard to consider this place has too few golf courses.

If you can't get a tee time, how does that not say there are not enough courses!? Even if that is only during peak season. The advertisement was play free golf for life - really, not if you can't get a tee time!

[jdguscinski]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

What is so special about Florida................the 90+ temperature?

that is why they plant Bermuda....it is "supposed" to thrive in high temperatures, except here?

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by jdguscinski

If you can't get a tee time, how does that not say there are not enough courses!? Even if that is only during peak season. The advertisement was play free golf for life - really, not if you can't get a tee time!

The ad is free golf for life, not free golf EVERY DAY for life. With a wide time window, and a large number of desired courses, a resident would rarely be shut out. The point system does a decent job of allocating tee times so that no one can hog the courses.

[mickey100]

My group plays executive course once a week during the high season. One of the members plays twice a week, so has a few points. We were shut out at least 3 or 4 times last winter, given about an 8 hour window with a large number of courses. If I had extend the window to include tee times at 6 or 7 pm at night, yes, we might have gotten tee times. But we wouldn't have been able to finish the round for lack of light. Now if you're talking about a single resident, or perhaps a couple, I supposed it would be easier to get tee times.

[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by mickey100

My group plays executive course once a week during the high season. One of the members plays twice a week, so has a few points. We were shut out at least 3 or 4 times last winter, given about an 8 hour window with a large number of courses. If I had extend the window to include tee times at 6 or 7 pm at night, yes, we might have gotten tee times. But we wouldn't have been able to finish the round for lack of light. Now if you're talking about a single resident, or perhaps a couple, I supposed it would be easier to get tee times.

Too many large groups

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by mickey100

We found Lopez to be good the other day.

So glad to hear things seem to be improving.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by mickey100

My group plays executive course once a week during the high season. One of the members plays twice a week, so has a few points. We were shut out at least 3 or 4 times last winter, given about an 8 hour window with a large number of courses. If I had extend the window to include tee times at 6 or 7 pm at night, yes, we might have gotten tee times. But we wouldn't have been able to finish the round for lack of light. Now if you're talking about a single resident, or perhaps a couple, I supposed it would be easier to get tee times.

Actually, I'm talking about the two groups I play in on executive courses that range from 12-16 players in the summer and up to 32 in the high season. This past winter we were shut out once. We don't put anyone in the request with more than three points, and no guests. We play any course and any time up to 3:00 PM.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by mikeod

Actually, I'm talking about the two groups I play in on executive courses that range from 12-16 players in the summer and up to 32 in the high season. This past winter we were shut out once. We don't put anyone in the request with more than three points, and no guests. We play any course and any time up to 3:00 PM.

Lucky you. We never put in a guest, although one or two people may have had 3 points. And we didn't put in for the really early tee times. We have only 4 people in the group, so the point average may be adversely affected by one person's points.

[graciegirl]

How are the championship courses these days? I am interested to hear from the frequent naysayers if things have improved.