[dbussone]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I was given a . However I find it unfair. I am tolerant of others and not as tight as some players when it comes to the rules and etiquette. however their are limits.



I like to a steady pace of play. I like to play by the USGA rules.



I like to focus on my game and I abhor it when people act like they really didn't know what they wanted to do with their day so they decided on golf



There are guys here in TV that play so extraordinary well that they restrict whom they play. I understand and agree with their decision.

I completely understand your positions on this subject. I had an uncle who was a club pro. He taught me the rules of golf and etiquette as a kid. I take liberty with the rules from time to time but not proper etiquette. Having said that I enjoy myself and try only to play with others who can as well. We live in a fabulous community. The views, birds and wildlife are a pleasure to observe - not the uptight, club throwing, golfers who take 5 minutes to evaluate their next putt from every angle. I also dislike being behind a foursome of men's day golfers. I've seen PGA events move faster.

My motto is: I enjoy golf but I don't get in a twit about it.

PS. I didn't think you deserved the chill out.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by dbussone

The views, birds and wildlife are a pleasure to observe - not the uptight, club throwing, golfers who take 5 minutes to evaluate their next putt from every angle. I also dislike being behind a foursome of men's day golfers. I've seen PGA events move faster.

My motto is: I enjoy golf but I don't get in a twit about it.

PS. I didn't think you deserved the chill out.

There was a guy who played in our group in CA, that took pace to an extreme. One time he and I as a twosome (he in a cart and I was walking) played 18 in 90 minutes. By the time I got to my drive, he was on the green looking back at me. One time, standing on our 18th tee, a par 3, the group in front was shaking hands at the end of their round and he yelled out, "You're wasting my time!". I tried to hide. I refused to play in any group he was in.

There is a happy medium.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

There was a guy who played in our group in CA, that took pace to an extreme. One time he and I as a twosome (he in a cart and I was walking) played 18 in 90 minutes. By the time I got to my drive, he was on the green looking back at me. One time, standing on our 18th tee, a par 3, the group in front was shaking hands at the end of their round and he yelled out, "You're wasting my time!". I tried to hide. I refused to play in any group he was in.

There is a happy medium.

Amen!

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by blueash

There is an enormous difference between not helping to maintain the course and attacking people who are unable to bend over to retrieve their ball, or who choose to apparently disrespect the "game" by not following every rule of a purist. I am all for letting people make up rules as long as they have an acceptable pace of play. Go ahead and improve your lie, maybe your next shot will go 100 yards instead of 20 from a bad lie, that moves the game along. Take it out of the sand trap if you don't like being in the sand. I don't care if you don't count wiffs or even tee it up in the fairway. Enjoy your game, ignore the rule police, respect the course. And if I'm playing with you and you can't fix your ball mark, ask me and I'll do it for you. And I do like a fun round at putt putt.

If they can bend over to put a tee in the ground, then they can bend over to fix a divot. Call me a purist if you want; I was always taught to leave EVERYTHING as I found it.

[tomwed]

There's another thread going on hosted by Polar Bear. He's looking for players for next thursday night [after 5pm]. I'm going. I can show you my green repair tool mounted on the handle of my ball return. There's a lot of good golfers in this thread. I hope you sign up.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

If they can bend over to put a tee in the ground, then they can bend over to fix a divot. Call me a purist if you want; I was always taught to leave EVERYTHING as I found it.

We have a member of our group that has trouble putting a tee in the ground. He has even more trouble with ball marks so someone in the foursome will take care of them for him. Since we repair our own and others we see anyway, it's no big deal to help him, and the course, out.

[rubicon]

The PGA/USGA promotion by Arnold Palmer of "while I am still young" rings true. Unnecessary piddling can add much time to a game and create an unnecessary and rather rude back up.

I have played with guys who are cordial not rushing but consciously in the game so that we finish before or at the recommended time for play.

On the other hand I have played with guys who seem to suffer from some sort of obsessive disorder that adds greatly to time or they sit over a shot forever.

To make my point Major League Baseball also has an issue with time and has advised its players to cut back on some of the rituals they perform before making a pitch or going to bat

I played one course in the same week recently. The difference was an additional half hour because of the : why I am young routines were performed by two different players on the second day. One of the players had the same routine and it took him about three minutes before he tee his driver on ever hole. In that same vein I have played with guys that balked if you pulled the stick..now that's too much and that is rude and that's not golf.

Personal Best Regards:

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by rubicon

The PGA/USGA promotion by Arnold Palmer of "while I am still young" rings true. Unnecessary piddling can add much time to a game and create an unnecessary and rather rude back up.

I have played with guys who are cordial not rushing but consciously in the game so that we finish before or at the recommended time for play.

On the other hand I have played with guys who seem to suffer from some sort of obsessive disorder that adds greatly to time or they sit over a shot forever.

To make my point Major League Baseball also has an issue with time and has advised its players to cut back on some of the rituals they perform before making a pitch or going to bat

I played one course in the same week recently. The difference was an additional half hour because of the : why I am young routines were performed by two different players on the second day. One of the players had the same routine and it took him about three minutes before he tee his driver on ever hole. In that same vein I have played with guys that balked if you pulled the stick..now that's too much and that is rude and that's not golf.

Personal Best Regards:

Ok, I fail to see where fixing divots constitutes piddling; getting a sand bottle and pouring the sand takes about 30 seconds and repairing a ball mark on a green takes maybe 10 seconds. Or have we dived off into another subject?

[xcaligirl]

People are just unbelievable with the "holier than thou attitudes"! I golfed about 30 years ago, quit and now I'm back to taking some lessons. I actually went online and read the rules even though I was pretty sure the rules hadn't changed much regarding golf, common sense and common courtesy!