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The only difference between "good" golfers and the rest of us and the Championship or Executive courses is about 6 inches.......(average space between the ears!).

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I play both and enjoy them for different reasons. I always play the executive from the black tees and some of the courses are hard to score well on. Pelican, Redfish Run and a few others. My handicap goes up and down dramatically depending on how my back is feeling that day/month.
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Thanks for the apology, Rubicon. In a discussion group like this, it is easy to misunderstand what a person says. I can understand if you visualized me sitting back in a soft chair, brandy in hand, and with my nose so high in the air that I would drown in a rainstorm.

As I said before, I am glad to hear how much you all enjoy the Exec courses, but it is too bad that the slow play of some people detracts from the experience.

Has anyone ever proposed a workable solution to the problem of slow play? For example, having a time when people are told they must play fairly quickly? Of course, then it has to be enforced, and that can cause hard feelings - at least that is what happened where I play.
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Thanks for the apology, Rubicon. In a discussion group like this, it is easy to misunderstand what a person says. I can understand if you visualized me sitting back in a soft chair, brandy in hand, and with my nose so high in the air that I would drown in a rainstorm.

As I said before, I am glad to hear how much you all enjoy the Exec courses, but it is too bad that the slow play of some people detracts from the experience.

Has anyone ever proposed a workable solution to the problem of slow play? For example, having a time when people are told they must play fairly quickly? Of course, then it has to be enforced, and that can cause hard feelings - at least that is what happened where I play.
It's addressed to the point of it sounding like a broken record with opinions all over the place just like any other thread. You have some in the "live and let live", life is too short side and others who would want fast play rigorously enforced by the ambassadors handing out red cards.

Where I'm from in South Jersey I think the public courses would overbook. The private courses until 10 years ago had a female policy about when women could play. It was an unusual course where the tee off times were on schedule and you finished 18 holes in around 4 hours. Down here, more than likely you might go out before your scheduled time. I can't remember being stalled on the first tee, teeing off late because of slow play. Considering all the beginners, they must be doing something right.
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,..... but it is too bad that the slow play of some people detracts from the experience.

Has anyone ever proposed a workable solution to the problem of slow play? For example, having a time when people are told they must play fairly quickly? Of course, then it has to be enforced, and that can cause hard feelings - at least that is what happened where I play.
There are ambassadors, but they don't really have any on the spot enforcement authority. They are supposed to have a slow group pick up and move to the next tee, but apparently get very little backing from TV golf. I suppose if there is a chronic offender, or someone routinely rude to the ambassador, someone higher up the food chain may deal with it.
We could require mandatory "good golf school", but it will probably fall on deaf ears. There are those, not many, who feel "entitled" to hold everyone else up to play slow, or talk, or repeat shots because "they paid for it", like everyone else didn't. These people are everywhere, just lucky not so much in TV
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As to OP's original question, my guess would be most people hate the execs. That's why they've only recorded a million rounds so far this year ( 1.8 million rounds on all courses together).
Rather than a "hate" of the execs, could all the reduced play on all courses together possibly be attributable more to this year's weather? I don't know of too many who like to play on courses with roped off holes due to excess water or 106-degree heat indices. This summer has been brutal! (Not any too safe or advisable for the aging population, meaning 60+, either.)

Nancy Lopez once remarked that she was glad that she didn't have to play Pelican on tour!
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As to OP's original question, my guess would be most people hate the execs. That's why they've only recorded a million rounds so far this year ( 1.8 million rounds on all courses together).
Rather than a "hate" of the execs, could all the reduced play on all courses together possibly be attributable more to this year's weather? I don't know of too many who like to play on courses with roped off holes due to excess water or 106-degree heat indices. This summer has been brutal! (Not any too safe or advisable for the aging population, meaning 60+, either.)

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Rather than a "hate" of the execs, could all the reduced play on all courses together possibly be attributable more to this year's weather? I don't know of too many who like to play on courses with roped off holes due to excess water or 106-degree heat indices. This summer has been brutal! (Not any too safe or advisable for the aging population, meaning 60+, either.)

Nancy Lopez once remarked that she was glad that she didn't have to play Pelican on tour!
I think Mulligan might have been employing some sarcasm in his post.
1.8 million total rounds and not even 2/3 way through the year puts TV on track for the usual 3 million rounds
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I think Mulligan might have been employing some sarcasm in his post.
1.8 million total rounds and not even 2/3 way through the year puts TV on track for the usual 3 million rounds
Ah so, missed it. Oops.

Dunno why mine posted twice, either. Sorry.
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It's addressed to the point of it sounding like a broken record with opinions all over the place just like any other thread. You have some in the "live and let live", life is too short side and others who would want fast play rigorously enforced by the ambassadors handing out red cards.

Where I'm from in South Jersey I think the public courses would overbook. The private courses until 10 years ago had a female policy about when women could play. It was an unusual course where the tee off times were on schedule and you finished 18 holes in around 4 hours. Down here, more than likely you might go out before your scheduled time. I can't remember being stalled on the first tee, teeing off late because of slow play. Considering all the beginners, they must be doing something right.
I've never had a problem with starting late. If anything it seems lately we started out early and the starters have us on top group in front if us and by the time we reach the 6th hole we have a traffic jam.
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I've never had a problem with starting late. If anything it seems lately we started out early and the starters have us on top group in front if us and by the time we reach the 6th hole we have a traffic jam.
I think if it were up to the starters they would have groups wait until they know from experience that later on groups won't bunch up. Beginners are anxious and don't know enough to take that in consideration so they want to start as soon as possible as if it was a roller coaster and the big hill is first.

Policy tells you to get there 1/2 hour early. Some people follow the rules and maybe that's why they are anxious to get started because they have been standing around for a 1/2 hour or more.
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...Policy tells you to get there 1/2 hour early...
What policy is that? I think half that is plenty if you're ready to go.
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I was trying to suggest why starters would send a group out earlier than they should or would if they knew everyone standing by their carts were experienced and understood how pacing works over 9 holes.

I don't think I manufactured one half hour early but I cannot find it or any policies in writing.


How come I can't find any policies in writing about etiquette and local rules? Can somebody give me a link? With all the talk and advice on this site and all the golfing going on why is it that you need to go to golf school or ask a golf staff member to get answers?

Kind of Off Topic---but this is a pet peeve of mine.
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I respect Environmental Areas and might use a retriever if I can see the ball but I never go in a restricted area like others I have seen. When I do bring up the subject that the penalty for going in a restricted area may be a fine over $200, golfers are shocked. I don't think that fine is posted and it should be. What is posted is that you may be asked to leave the course. That sounds like the worst that could happen is being sent to the principal's office, a slap on the wrist.

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